Bad Mentors?

[LalaRu]

The mentor system provides more experienced players a means to offer advice and guidance to newer players.

That's it. If you opt in only for the perks but don't give a scyte about the obligations you AGREED to, you don't deserve mentor status but deserve its permanent removal instead. It will be nice SE giving out stats not only of RMT banned, but also of how many Mentors went permanently dismissed, so people will start to be useful as a mentor, or opt out if they don't want.

[Watachy]

Remove the 2 seats mount from the mentor achievement = no more non-involved mentors.

[Louvain]

Remove the 2 seats mount from the mentor achievement = no more non-involved mentors.

Most people do not even try for the mount. They just want the crown symbol next to their name to feel special.

Edit: in fact, now that I think about it, a majority of other mentors that I've spoken to either aren't even aware it exists, and again, a majority of the ones who do know of it aren't that motivated to work for it. It is a lot of time put in for Astrope.

[Seig345]

Remove the 2 seats mount from the mentor achievement = no more non-involved mentors.

As a relatively new mentor, I would support this or at least adding either an additional requirement in commendations (something much higher than required to become a mentor, or perhaps a counter that goes up each time you get a comm from a duty while you had mentor status on), or something like that.

I became a mentor because I enjoy helping others and see the Mentor Status (crown) as a means of letting people know at a glance that I'm willing to stop what I'm doing to answer a question or even look it up if necessary. Seeing as the mentor status can be turned on and off at will, it's simple to turn it off if I'm having a day where I'm not feeling very social or I'm busy with something else so even that isn't an excuse.

[Watachy]

I became a mentor because I enjoy helping others and see the Mentor Status (crown) as a means of letting people know at a glance that I'm willing to stop what I'm doing to answer a question or even look it up if necessary. Seeing as the mentor status can be turned on and off at will, it's simple to turn it off if I'm having a day where I'm not feeling very social or I'm busy with something else so even that isn't an excuse.

I don't mind helping people that have the will to learn and understand things. It's a pleasure to teach things to people that want to progress etc.
But im collecting mounts, and that's a really nice. People have such a bad image of mentors that i became the "silent type" grinding my mount and that's all. Want tips ? I will give you some, if you don't ask for anything i won't say anything anymore since people think you've to play like a god everytime as a mentor.

[Seig345]

This is just anecdotal, but I've yet to see any vitriol thrown my way over mentor status. I have seen occasional cranky/snobby/edgy players, but I don't let them get to me. Probably something I learned to deal with when I started leveling tank jobs for the first time when HW launched.

Now I don't go out of my way to offer unsolicited advice unless someone is clearly struggling with something I'm familiar with or unless someone asks, but I always say hi at the beginning, congratulate everyone and wish them a safe journey at the end, and maybe remark on close calls and good saves if I see them.

If someone gets cranky about it, I'll pipe down, but only for that run.

[Ghishlain]

This is just anecdotal, but I've yet to see any vitriol thrown my way over mentor status. I have seen occasional cranky/snobby/edgy players, but I don't let them get to me. Probably something I learned to deal with when I started leveling tank jobs for the first time when HW launched.

Now I don't go out of my way to offer unsolicited advice unless someone is clearly struggling with something I'm familiar with or unless someone asks, but I always say hi at the beginning, congratulate everyone and wish them a safe journey at the end, and maybe remark on close calls and good saves if I see them.

If someone gets cranky about it, I'll pipe down, but only for that run.

This is pretty much what I do too. If I see a new player bonus pop up in an instance I try to give one or two points about a particular boss fight when we get to the gate even if no one pipes up that they're new. Yeah, it might be someone leveling an Alt but I'm not really detracting from the run either and I'm not directing my advice to any particular player either. If it's quite clear all the players understand the fight mechanics completely just by how they play on the first boss, I'll probably not bother giving advice on the following bosses as it seems pretty clear to me they understand what they're doing.

I think the only real time where I've given unsolicited advice was in a Copperbell (normal) run I had where there was a sprout ACN with Topaz Carby out. It annoyed the DRK tank we had greatly but eventually Carby just died due to aggro and after noticing that the ACN didn't resummon a Carby after a while made note of that in party chat and made not to use Emerald instead of Topaz. After the next pull the ACN did indeed summon Emerald Carby into the fray and things went smoothly from there. I made my notes about specific bosses as we hit them up and reminded the ACN to resummon his Topaz Carby once he left as the Topaz Carby is great for solo play but not so much for party play due to having a dedicated tank most of the time. There was never a single word from this ACN but I ended up walking away with three commends that run so I'll take it that people appreciated the talk xD

[DracotheDragon]

I will say that with silent mentors it is t always becuse the mentor is bad take a player from the PS4 at most times the virtual keynotes is both slow to load and very slow to type with and I find the mentor is on the PS4 the party could pull and this then leaves the PS4 mentor fumbling to try and close this very clunky UI element and I will admit I have been locked out of a fight thanks to the keynotes blocking the pull announcement while trying to help a novice,

Sometimes as well a PS4 mentor may not have a keyboard which again means thay are forced to use the very clunky virtual keynotes as for pc mentors I know of a few times when my friends say they didn't see the question due to how chatty linkshells and fc can be

[DracotheDragon]

I will say that with silent mentors it is t always becuse the mentor is bad take a player from the PS4 at most times the virtual keynotes is both slow to load and very slow to type with and I find the mentor is on the PS4 the party could pull and this then leaves the PS4 mentor fumbling to try and close this very clunky UI element and I will admit I have been locked out of a fight thanks to the keynotes blocking the pull announcement while trying to help a novice,

Sometimes as well a PS4 mentor may not have a keyboard which again means thay are forced to use the very clunky virtual keynotes as for pc mentors I know of a few times when my friends say they didn't see the question due to how chatty linkshells and fc can be

Replace keynotes with keyboard I don't know how to edit on phone

[LineageRazor]

You don't need to be a skillful player to be a helpful mentor. Even if the advice you give is questionable, just being willing to GIVE advice, and be friendly and helpful, are valuable.

At the same time, just because you're a mentor doesn't mean you need to give unsolicited advice. If a run is going well, there's no reason to speak up. Sounds like this was not the case in the original post, though, as that run was NOT going well. Reporting that mentor might well be in order. While I doubt the GM would do anything immediately (it wasn't as though the bad mentor was deliberately harassing anyone), it would be a black mark against them. If they keep records of reports of this kind, eventually those black marks would add up, and possibly result in removal of Mentorship.

Sadly, "no keyboard" might be the issue, here. It boggles my mind that players still attempt to play a game so grounded in communication without one, when USB keyboards are so easy to come by!