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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Not really very true since PC and PS4 were already playing together before the 'openess' from Microsoft.



    Sony already allows cross platform play, what they do not do is allow 3rd party game networks to interface directly with PSN, and from a security perspective, who can blame them.

    The whole Microsoft play on cross platform is the usual dishonest some and mirrors from MS.
    My point is Sony allows crossplay between PC and PS4 only while Microsoft allows crossplay between PC, XB1, and PS4. And who can blame them about being worried about security? We all should and can. FFXIV is literally a 3rd party network that hooks directly into PSN. Epic's Paragon uses it's own network as well. The only thing PSN does, and I may be using the wrong terminology here, is make the initial handshake that allows PS4s to connect to said networks.

    How is smoke and mirrors? Psyonix literally said they were ready to roll out cross-platform play between every platform as soon as Sony gave them the greenlight. They weren't waiting on big, bad Microsoft. It was Sony who couldn't get their act together. Other developers feel the same way too.

    I'm not trying to defend Microsoft or hate on Sony. I'm just saying, if you're going to praise one and dismiss the other, at least do it for the right reasons. Because they're both great and dumb in their own, unique ways.
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    It was never "still happening". And it isn't just the Paid XBL, it is also the fact that M$ wants to keep the XB players on their own servers. It will probably never happen (since it would have already I think), but if you want to try, you need to go petition M$. The devs have said multiple times that it would be very easy to do, but they can't make an agreement with M$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru View Post
    It was never "still happening". And it isn't just the Paid XBL, it is also the fact that M$ wants to keep the XB players on their own servers. It will probably never happen (since it would have already I think), but if you want to try, you need to go petition M$. The devs have said multiple times that it would be very easy to do, but they can't make an agreement with M$.
    Yes, it's true that the 'walled garden' for XBox only players is an issue. However, SE is far more concerned that XBox players would essentially be paying a "double sub" to access the game and don't want to have to reduce their OWN sub cost to compensate for the difference in cost it would take to play on the XBox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru View Post
    It was never "still happening". And it isn't just the Paid XBL, it is also the fact that M$ wants to keep the XB players on their own servers. It will probably never happen (since it would have already I think), but if you want to try, you need to go petition M$. The devs have said multiple times that it would be very easy to do, but they can't make an agreement with M$.
    Microsoft also generally requires game subs and any DLC or optional services to be charged through XBL and their commerce servers. That would mean SE giving up control of their own business, hardly a recipe for an Xbox 1 port, especially as MS seems more interested in PC Windows gaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Microsoft also generally requires game subs and any DLC or optional services to be charged through XBL and their commerce servers. That would mean SE giving up control of their own business, hardly a recipe for an Xbox 1 port, especially as MS seems more interested in PC Windows gaming.
    While you're not wrong with how they handle DLC or optional services, do recall Warframe, MGS 5, and Neverwinter are both on Xbox and the microtransactions work the same. Patches aren't DLC either, I don't see a reason Xbox would charge for a game patch. I think it's more the whole separate issues, and needing xbl that hindered the games development on Xbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Patches aren't DLC either, I don't see a reason Xbox would charge for a game patch.

    PSN and Xbox live charge $40,000.00 for a patch. One of the many articles you can find online.

    https://www.technobuffalo.com/2012/0...home-consoles/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    While you're not wrong with how they handle DLC or optional services, do recall Warframe, MGS 5, and Neverwinter are both on Xbox and the microtransactions work the same. Patches aren't DLC either, I don't see a reason Xbox would charge for a game patch. I think it's more the whole separate issues, and needing xbl that hindered the games development on Xbox.
    Not patches, no. But optional services like retainers and all the mob station stuff could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Not patches, no. But optional services like retainers and all the mob station stuff could be.
    Given Mog Station based services aren't offered through any other outlet such as PS Store or Steam, the only way I can see Microsoft attempting to monetize optional items is IF they required them to be purchased off the Xbox Marketplace. But XBL doesn't have it's own currency anymore, yet it uses real money amounts, so in this situation it's hard to determine how'd they attempt this. Also, given how certain items are set up to be either account wide or character based, setting up optional items via 3rd party outlets would likely not work. Honestly had SE not went the route of cash shop this would be one less hurdle for them to bring the game over. But that is a different discussion that has been done over and over again.
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    No news. Seems talks between Yoshi and MS didn't come to fruition. Yoshi said he was in talk with MS back in Autumn but nothing came out I guess. 2 Fan Fests past and he could have revealed it there but he didn't I guess it's not happening.
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    Microsoft wont budge on requiring XBox live to play FFXIV. Which would be a subscription on top of a subscription. Until that is removed all bets are off. Its also the big reason why their claim to be open to crossplay is smoke and mirrors.
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