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  1. 02-09-2017 06:34 AM
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    Sera Malqir "Atoli" was trying to troll me, and I was as yet unaware.

  2. 02-09-2017 06:52 AM

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    To conclude...

    I was trying to play "catch up" for my main, so that i could get back into doing extreme primals pre 4.0 possibly.

    But the main drive I have to play the game is to get the 3.0 relics on the 3.0 jobs. As my final goal for this game is to have all 99's and all relics respective to their expansions release.

    Its quite difficult to do both of those at once, even with the extra free time someone like me has. (I only have to work 25 hours a week at most.)

    but...

    There are things that deter me from resubscribing, and I have noted those in my other posts and threads.

    Atoli gave me yet another reason to not re-subscribe. So thank you.



    A genuine thanks to anyone trying to offer tips who were being genuine, and at least trying to comprehend.
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  4. 02-09-2017 07:18 AM
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    incorrect information haha.

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    I only have a limited time every week to play the game and mostly play on the weekends and I cap my scripture every week. Getting tombs is easy enough and what you're proposing would only cause ppl to cap their weekly scripture tombs in just a few hrs if that.

    I understand it being frustrating that older content dies and becomes hard to do due to a lack of people. Something does need to get done to cause ppl to want to do the old content again, wonderous tails is a start but more is needed.

    I would say to help liven up the older content would be to either put in a quest line where you can upgrade selected old gear like raid gear or artifact gear to a more current ilvl. Another idea would be to add bonus stats to older gear that would increase specific skills and abilities if that piece of gear is equipped when you equip it, basically bring in the old gear swap system us FF XI players are used to and seems a lot of us do miss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    [...]and what you're proposing would only cause ppl to cap their weekly scripture tombs in just a few hrs if that.
    If you wanted, you can currently speedrun an expert dungeon 9 times in a row for 50 tomes each and cap in around 3 hours. It's already quite possible to cap in just a few hours - thus, the only thing the OPs suggestion would change is to create more diversity in that process.

    I call big whoop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    If you wanted, you can currently speedrun an expert dungeon 9 times in a row for 50 tomes each and cap in around 3 hours. It's already quite possible to cap in just a few hours - thus, the only thing the OPs suggestion would change is to create more diversity in that process.

    I call big whoop.
    Hey you get it!

    You dont agree maybe, but you get it!

    Thanks, even if someone doesnt agree, I can at least appreciate not having to re-explain it over and over and over to everyone. Its like doing expert roulette! LOL.

    (by the way, I liked the persons quote you quoted because they too understood. Dont agree, but understood.

    The best responses are ones that understand that expert roulette is repetitive, and offered a suggestion to Squre-Enix to add variety, or offered me a suggestion to capping tomes in another way. You didnt offer either, but at least you got it.
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    Last edited by Daniolaut; 02-09-2017 at 10:33 AM.

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    And what sense does it make if the old content gives new content rewards? Whats next, 250+ Gear in WoD? I honestly see no reason to give out new stuff in old content and its not that old content doesn't get played anymore.

    For capping the tomes you don't have to go in expert a single time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    And what sense does it make if the old content gives new content rewards?
    Leveling roulette gives 5 scripture. Should they take it out then?

    Leveling in a synced party in sastasha level 15 dungeon gives a level 51 player experience points. Should they take it out then?



    The "sense" is to enhance gameplay, by allowing you to accomplish more than 1 task at a time. Especially one so boring and repetitive as to capping tomes.

    Tomes are literally the same as experience points after you are done leveling. Literally the exact same thing. There is even a thing called a "item level" that you "level up" once you hit the temporary "max level."

    (this is actually funny to me, because people were *so* against the leveling fatigue in 1.0, but here backing up the tome weekly cap.

    Personally I would like the opposite. I'd like to be restricted to how much I can level, but unrestricted in how many classes I can gear up.
    Better yet, 1.19 version of neither being restricted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Whats next, 250+ Gear in WoD? I honestly see no reason to give out new stuff in old content
    This is completely different, although I wouldnt be against it. Because honestly, if you get a new player who is less experienced, would you rather them be less experience and undergeared, or just less experienced? Experience only comes with time, but tomes could come from everything!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    and its not that old content doesn't get played anymore.
    Try not playing during peak times, or telling all the people who cant find parties or friends this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    For capping the tomes you don't have to go in expert a single time.
    to my understanding, the fastest quickest way to cap tomes is a daily expert roulette.

    If i'm wrong please correct me.
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    Last edited by Daniolaut; 02-09-2017 at 10:28 AM.

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    To cap your tomes you would have to go 4-5 times expert, yes but only if you get the expert bonus, what means it takes 4-5 days. If you do the other stuff like 24 man raid, alex normal, pvp and maybe some primal farm for mounts and/or weapons you cap them also without entering expert a single time, depending on the time you play of course. What means that you don't have to do the whole 2 dungeon all the time shit and these 2 dungeons are not getting boring that fast.

    And no the tomes can stay in the leveling roulette since it is to keep players in low level dungeons that lowis get faster ques. There is no reason to put them into the dungeons themselfs.

    What use would it have if someone gets the lategame gear in a lower dungeon? They couldn't wear it and have enough ways to get gear when they reach 60 anyway.

    If you are not playing between 11 am and 12 am, you will probably not get entry anyway. Between these hours you'll get usualy entry for almost everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

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