Thread: 1.0 player says "Expert Roulette" is a brick wall

This was the last of my statements to Square-Enix of things I would like to see changed.

If this is changed or not changed, since it is the least of my things of interest, its unlikely to effectively weigh/influence my choice for staying or taking another break.

Any following responses were me, responding to people, as I thought it was opening a discussion, not an argument.

Thank you.

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Sorry for a repost:

Here is a thread, I support with a similar mindset:
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Tired of tomes grind thread




I have come back to this game after a 2-3 month break, but because of the design of expert roulette and tomes, I doubt I will resubscribe.

Since 2013, when this game released I have been doing expert roulette.

This is the only solid method to obtaining tomes, and I have very low motivation to do it, which means i'm very unlikely to resubscribe.

Imagine, if every single dungeon in the entire game gave half the tome reward as the two "expert roulette" dungeons.

Sastasha level 15 dungeon gave 50 Poetics, 40 Lore, 25 Scipture
Sohm Al Hard level 60 gave 100 Poetics, 80 Lore, 50 Scripture


Imagine how "undead" all the "old" content would be.

People wouldnt mind doing old content. It would be rewarding and you could always accomplish 2 tasks at once, allowing players to do more content besides expert.

People with limited time could do things other than expert roulette
and
People with a lot of time would never have to do expert roulette.


Why in the world of Hydaelyn Earth Universe of Vana'diel Eos, Gaia is the only viable option to obtain tomes expert roulette, and all the other content driven to death by lack of reward?!

Makes zero sense tome... (i just typo'ed that instead of saying "to me" but I think it fits so i'm not going to fix it.)



Edit:

Not only would giving tomes to all dungeons mean people actually have options, content doesnt die,

but when story content is released youre not forced to do it day one to unlock expert roulette so you can start getting tomes again,

which allows you to do story content on your own time/leisure!

I haven't done expert roulette in months and I cap tomes every week.
Tomes are not hard to come by. Put yourself forward to other goals in the game, it has a lot to offer.

Originally Posted by Daniolaut

I have been playing quite a bit this past month, and I only capped tomes 1 week out of 3 so far. The week I capped I spammed the Alexander story fights, and 4-5 expert roulette duneons to get some gear/cap scripture. (Expert roulette like 1-2 times that week, but had to do the dungeons on top of the roulette to unlock roulette in the first place.)


This week so far I have done expert roulette twice and already halfway passed my required 3.0 dungeons for the Machinist relic, and not even halfway to capping scripture.

Aside from scripture I have only been able to buy 4-5 pieces of lore gear from all the dungeons i have done.

Personally I feel if you play the game, doing dungeons in a level synced party you should never "have" to do expert. Personally I feel expert roulette should be for people on limited time, and should only have to do it 2-3 times a week.

5 times a week to cap tomes, and get a handful of other tomes in way over the top, especially when only 2-3 dungeons compile the list for the roulette.

Not only is this repetitive, but also kills "old" content. Again..

Imagine, if every single dungeon in the entire game gave half the tome reward as the two "expert roulette" dungeons.

Sastasha level 15 dungeon gave 50 Poetics, 40 Lore, 25 Scipture
Sohm Al Hard level 60 gave 100 Poetics, 80 Lore, 50 Scripture


Imagine how "undead" all the "old" content would be.

Yopshi did mention that in fan fare and goal is to speed things up by making dungeons range between 15-20 minutes. You have weekly tails book now that gives tomes and POD if you want less than 15 min and do kianna weapons. Sounds tome you play on occasion. If you don't have enough time on your hands I can understand your situation. I work, go to school, have a relationship, and make time for my self. Each gamer has their own way and on a bad day I play maybe 2hours tops. It's all about how you spend your time. Hopefully you have a good FC or friends to help. I usually solo being it makes it a bit more challenging to me. SE has done a great job making this game friendly for all types, unfortunately it's not for everyone. Give it a chance by doing at least min the main story line. It's easy , fun, and if you have expansion you can get min. a level 60 just by doing main story and quest if you don't want to grind. Old content maybe slowing down, it's getting nerfed, Zodiac relics for example, I raids as well maybe a bit slower but now are do able with right group from an FC. To be fair it's way easier than it was before. An example is people asking to Nerf the Zodiac wep. quest line. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...08#post4027808 it's been nerfed sooo much it and people still complain. But hey no disrespect everyone has their own play style and progress. But in this case I blame the player not the product.

Again my response is to mix it up. There's no need to only do expert roulette when so many other options give you tomestones.

Originally Posted by Canadane

Again my response is to mix it up. There's no need to only do expert roulette when so many other options give you tomestones.

Originally Posted by Astyrah

this basically. an example routine i have is that (tuesday) i start it off by doing weekly savage loot/page runs, then vath beast tribes, a few hunts here and there, some potd, help friends with their relic aether farm (a1s spam), HW ex trial mount farm runs, and only 1 expert and i'm done for the week's scripture cap by wednesday or thursday

The problem is i'm trying to *avoid* a routine, and my attempts to "mix it up" are not rewarding the amount of tomes worthy of the time invested.

I want to play a video game to enjoy it, I dont want a second job.

The reason being, is when "new" content is added "old" content suffers a hit to rewards, yet do not reflect amount of time completed in relation to tomes rewarded, which in turns to said content's "death."

This is the point of the thread.

Renew old content by granting tomes in relation to time invested.



Example:

Just ran level 57 the Vault dungeon

Took as long if not longer than Sohm al (Hard)

Rewards:

0 Scripture
0 Lore
0 Poetics
0 Experience (already level 60 every job)
1,000 gil (not enough to repair a piece of gear (right? I dont know, I use dark matter.)
1-2 pieces gear worth like 400 or so Grand Company seals

Originally Posted by Daniolaut

The problem is i'm trying to *avoid* a routine, and my attempts to "mix it up" are not rewarding the amount of tomes worthy of the time invested.

I want to play a video game to enjoy it, I dont want a second job.

The reason being, is when "new" content is added "old" content suffers a hit to rewards, yet do not reflect amount of time completed in relation to tomes rewarded, which in turns to said content's "death."

This is the point of the thread.

Renew old content by granting tomes in relation to time invested.

while i did say routine in my post, it isn't really a routine and it's more of a string random nothings and what i happened to feel like doing at the time. well the weekly savage is the only routine in my "routine" and that doesnt take more than a few hours (less than 1.5 hours if queues are good in RF) depending on queue times - and that's for the whole week.

as for renewing old content, i think they're fine as is and even if you give them rewards and incentives for 60/max level jobs/class you wouldn't be spamming sastasha level sync'd (and let's face it they wont let you have the tomes if you unsync it) that would really be boring and we already have leveling and mentor roulette to help the queues for 1-59 dungeons