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    Player Makavelii's Avatar
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    I appreciate everyone taking the time to respond, n I think a lot of valid points were made through multiple posts..

    I encourage ALL types of communication in ANY competitive team based game n personally I think SE should allow BOTH Text and Voice for Competitive PvP

    Comparing ACT and VOIP wasn't my initial idea for this post.. Clearly ACT is a 3rd party program that is 100% against TOS so comparing the two is silly.. I think what I was more trying to say is that between the two there's one thing in common.. The player is looking for a competitive advantage over his opponents n is looking to improve his chances at gaining that Precious +25 MMR..

    I think what it comes down to are a few simple questions..

    1. Do the players using VOIP in Solo Queue while their opponents aren't gain a competitive advantage?

    2. If so how significant of an advantage?

    3. Should it be looked down upon regardless of if it's not technically "cheating" or against TOS
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    Player Makavelii's Avatar
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    Also a lot of people have said "it's not an advantage because Voice Chat is free for anyone to use" While this is true I think it's a dumb argument.. and is just being said to try n justify their actions by saying "but.. hey.. they could do it to"

    What it comes down to is that since Voice Chat isn't available in the Game itself and That only a portion of the PvP player base is in the Discord channel that has been refrenced.

    Yes the channel is free to join but it's a fact that not EVERY player has access to it right now and the players that are in it and choose to use VOIP are at a significant advantage.. so what's the solution to all of this? Spam the Discord Channel so that every single PvP Player is in it? lol or Implement Voice chat in the game client? (Pigs are going to fly" or just turn the other cheek?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makavelii View Post
    Also a lot of people have said "it's not an advantage because Voice Chat is free for anyone to use" While this is true I think it's a dumb argument.. and is just being said to try n justify their actions by saying "but.. hey.. they could do it to"

    What it comes down to is that since Voice Chat isn't available in the Game itself and That only a portion of the PvP player base is in the Discord channel that has been refrenced.

    Yes the channel is free to join but it's a fact that not EVERY player has access to it right now and the players that are in it and choose to use VOIP are at a significant advantage.. so what's the solution to all of this? Spam the Discord Channel so that every single PvP Player is in it? lol or Implement Voice chat in the game client? (Pigs are going to fly" or just turn the other cheek?
    Restore feast chat and implement in-game VOIP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makavelii View Post
    I appreciate everyone taking the time to respond, n I think a lot of valid points were made through multiple posts..

    I encourage ALL types of communication in ANY competitive team based game n personally I think SE should allow BOTH Text and Voice for Competitive PvP

    I think what it comes down to are a few simple questions..

    1. Do the players using VOIP in Solo Queue while their opponents aren't gain a competitive advantage?


    2. If so how significant of an advantage?

    3. Should it be looked down upon regardless of if it's not technically "cheating" or against TOS

    A 1.) Yes they do. So did players that made effective use of chat while that was still a viable option. Those that didn't typically ended up on the losing side.

    A 2.) This depends on the situation and composition of the people using chat and their team composition. You could have a great tank and healer in chat with horrible DPS and your chances don't improve much. Same with 2 great DPS in chat, but horrible healer or tank and your chances of winning are still going to be pretty low. The major advantage that you're going to get is a bit more coordination between the players using chat, but i don't think it's a huge advantage against an equally skilled team.

    A 3.) I don't believe communication in a team environment should be looked down upon no matter how you communicate with each other.
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