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    HELLruler's Avatar
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    Yevol Valeriant
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    Lamia
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    Dragoon Lv 60

    Could Zodiac Braves get a nerf in requirements?

    I know it's outdated content, but I'm trying to obtain the lvl 50 relics for glamour/completion

    Right now, this step takes:

    * 4 items costing 20k GC seals each -> 80k GC seals
    * 4 items costing 400 poetics each -> 1600 poetics
    * 4 items costing 100k gil each -> 400k gil
    * A lot of craft-only HQ items

    For a single, outdated relic, this is a whopping amount of commitment, and it's not even worth doing it to skip the first quest for the lvl 60 relic

    My proposal of change is:

    * 4 items costing 2k GC seals each -> 8k GC seals (90% reduction)
    * 4 items costing 200 poetics each -> 800 poetics (50% reduction)
    * 4 items costing 10k gil each -> 40k gil (90% reduction)
    * Remove HQ requirement and make items available to buy with poetics/gil -> 150 poetics or 5k gil each
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Balmung
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    It's actually pretty nerfed and crafting is fairly easy if you have proper gear and gill. If your a Disciple of Hand Gill should be no problem as well a gear. After seeing your profile however I would really focus on daily items to turn in for fast XP, Squadron quest for XP scrolls for Hand and Land Jobs. Raise your retainers and send the out for items, can sell HQ ones or use them. That or ask a friend to help you. I think you just want the easy way out. Believe me it's WAY easier than before. Their is a reason why relics are a grind. Besides Glamour, you can use a completed Zodiac weapon to skip the crystal farming stage for the Anima series. After your first one you can use other jobs and while your raising them start gathering the end phase items. Do Treasure maps for gill and try to get into treasure dungeon Aqua with Dragon skin maps if you have a high enough level or ask FC or friends how that works. You would be surprised many people will help. By the way doing multiple Disciple of the Hand can get you cross skills which make it very easy to craft. Use leves to craft, turn in HQ items always for double teh XP and seals. IF it's to hard grind a lower level one that is easier for you. Hope this helps and believe me it's a hardship. I'm doing it all relics from the start and believe it's not for everyone.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 02-07-2017 at 11:57 PM. Reason: Character limit

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    Want to build it on my own. Guess I'll have to level crafting :/

    Thanks for the answer!
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    They made it so Crafting is much easier now tons of more XP up to level 55 Good Luck. If your ever in Balmung look me up I will be glad to help :P
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by HELLruler View Post
    Want to build it on my own. Guess I'll have to level crafting :/

    Thanks for the answer!
    Technically, you can't do the crafting step entirely on your own. The base materials for those are acquired via desynthesis, and you can only have three of them high enough. I mean, I suppose you could level and delevel them... but that's a crazy amount of time and effort.

    Honestly, my biggest issue with that step is the flat costs, and I totally agree with your proposed changes. While yes, I know the weapon is a mark of prestige and a desired glamour even now, but I still balk a little at paying 400k for it.
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    Sigma Alpheratz
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 99
    I wish they would make the whole process much easier, specially the nasty books phase which literally takes ludicrously long, I pretty much hate that part!...

    I still have my Warrior axe left so please Yoshi-P, make the whole process easier!...
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    I wish they would make the whole process much easier, specially the nasty books phase which literally takes ludicrously long, I pretty much hate that part!...

    I still have my Warrior axe left so please Yoshi-P, make the whole process easier!...
    book phase already got nerfed.
    I think if you say the book phase, you mean the wait time for the FATE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    book phase already got nerfed.
    I think if you say the book phase, you mean the wait time for the FATE?
    Even that part got adjusted and nerfed to the ground, spawn times are now 15-30 minutes (unless nobody is doing any fates in these area's and you don't do them yourself) in comparison to once a day spawn or every 2-8 hrs.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    Technically, you can't do the crafting step entirely on your own. The base materials for those are acquired via desynthesis, and you can only have three of them high enough. I mean, I suppose you could level and delevel them... but that's a crazy amount of time and effort.

    Honestly, my biggest issue with that step is the flat costs, and I totally agree with your proposed changes. While yes, I know the weapon is a mark of prestige and a desired glamour even now, but I still balk a little at paying 400k for it.
    First de synthesis is very easy to level and cheap, gear you probably throw away or find in dungeons. Second people have forgotten that while it is a glamor, and skipping first step of fate grinding in the anima saga, it is meant to be a grind. Atmas are basically raining now in fates, Books can be done unsynced, fates have been made to appear faster, number of mobs to kill is only 3 instead of the original 9. Alexandrite maps have gone from 1 to 5 drops per map now. Lights have been improved soooo much I feel cheated of the time I spend doing my Zodiac weapons. I think they have been over generous with the Zodiac nerf. Now if this is still too hard, you can always go for raid weps. Now if your saying you don't have a high enough level or gear that sounds like a commitment problem.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 02-09-2017 at 03:44 AM. Reason: Character limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    First de synthesis is very easy to level and cheap, gear you probably throw away or find in dungeons. Second people have forgotten that while it is a glamor, and skipping first step of fate grinding in the anima saga, it is meant to be a grind. Atmas are basically raining now in fates, Books can be done unsynced, fates have been made to appear faster, number of mobs to kill is only 3 instead of the original 9. Alexandrite maps have gone from 1 to 5 drops per map now. Lights have been improved soooo much I feel cheated of the time I spend doing my Zodiac weapons. I think they have been over generous with the Zodiac nerf.
    You forgot to add that the drops from the dungeons are now 100% compared to the 0.0001% chance of an item dropping after successfully finishing the dungeon, making it even faster and easier to complete these steps.
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