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    Azurymber's Avatar
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    FFXIV: Cheat 2 Win - The New Norm?

    When FFXIV 2.0 started, a number of people used farming bots, that warped from group-to-group of sheep in coerthas. Even with 100s of people reporting them, they never seemed to get banned.

    With PvP a number of people used PvP bots for SIX MONTHS + with no bans. Literally these people would leave the bot running 24/7, having it enter pvp matches and then either auto-target the healer, the closest target, run into a wall, or stand around and do nothing.
    On the other hand, others used win-trading (an obvious violation of the intended system, but accepted by SE) to quickly level up in pvp and get the i100 gear.

    Now a HUGE amount of people are using a third party app that lets you wide-scan areas to quickly find Hunt mobs. And an even larger number of people are joining their parties to get easy and quick access to hunts. Without anyway to see third party apps in use, they will continue to be able to do this as long as they keep their mouths shut and don't post screenshots.

    Over the past year, this game has been exploited over, and over, and over, and over again. With the exploiters often joking about it and bragging that the GMs in the game don't do anything.

    Honestly this is becoming very disconcerting. When large numbers of people cheat to get ahead, it ruins the game for those who don't want to cheat.

    However, the developers of this game consistently seem to implement content that PROMOTES CHEATING.

    It is incredibly unfair that the players who care enough about this game -not- to ruin it for others, end up getting screwed over and over and over again. Whether it's the PVPer who spent a month grinding instead of a few days, the hunter trying to find mobs legitimately, or the individual trying to make some gil to buy a cute new rug for their house.

    While it's understandable that some cheating will always occur, this game not only allows it, but does not respond when it is blatantly occurring.

    I've played about 20 mmos, both F2P and P2P, and I have never seen the level of blatant cheating as this game has. People on this forum actually debate the merits of exploiting the system or using third party tools.

    Something should be done, so that the people who want to legitimately experience this great game can do so, without having to devote countless hours of aggravation due to other's actions.
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    I think it all comes down to money. SE can't afford to lose thousands of paying customers (literally) so they turn a blind eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halisstra View Post
    I think it all comes down to money. SE can't afford to lose thousands of paying customers (literally) so they turn a blind eye.
    LM-17, FFXI, your move.
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    Make hunts appear on map so all have same chance, however this will become a race of who gets there first but at least is on equal grounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValkyrieL View Post
    Make hunts appear on map so all have same chance, however this will become a race of who gets there first but at least is on equal grounds.
    This would still yield the same result we are currently seeing. ^^;
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    What I don't understand, is why it's sooooooo important for these people to "win" to the point that they feel the need to exploit through third party software.
    I mean... it's just a game, right?
    Competition in hunts and pvp is part of the game. So really, what will they do when they have everything by doing nothing then have nothing left to do.

    My brain is frazzled but I know what I'm trying to say >.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephany View Post
    I mean... it's just a game, right?
    Cheaters and trolls will use this against you as a counter-counter point sadly. It's annoying.
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    How's about we actually give the Devs time to address this. Because an exploit like this will most likely not only need mass bans, but also a update that will "break " the app.

    So how's 'bout we all calm down, and not act like "Oh woe! Nothing will EVER get done about this!" after 4 freakin' days.

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    Would like to mention that while Win trading was "allowed", Yoshida mentioned in an interview that Win trading has become reportable. At the sametime they punished us for people win trading by removing Morale and adding the i80 sync to Frontlines. That PvP gear is useless when it comes to everything except Glamour and Wolf's den
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    How's about we actually give the Devs time to address this. Because an exploit like this will most likely not only need mass bans, but also a update that will "break " the app.

    So how's 'bout we all calm down, and not act like "Oh woe! Nothing will EVER get done about this!" after 4 freakin' days.
    After what happened with 1.0, I'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner.
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