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    Naoshi Mizuta for 5.0

    Can Naoshi Mizuta be the main music composer for 5.0 he did a great job in FF11 and I feel that his music really brings the world to life. FFXI Treasures of Aht Urhgan soundtrack was just beautiful it truly made you feel like you were in a new mysterious continent.
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    FFXI Soundtrack is something I've found to be pretty consistently overrated. Every time somebody tries to post "evidence" of how much better the OST in that game is than this one it usually just ends up ranging anywhere from "okay" to "mediocre", because in the end musical tastes are subjective. I don't see any reason to demote Soken just because "you liked FFXI a lot."

    There are some 1.0 Uematsu songs I still really miss (especially all three city themes), but to pretend like Soken is bad or needs replacing is pretty silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    FFXI Soundtrack is something I've found to be pretty consistently overrated. Every time somebody tries to post "evidence" of how much better the OST in that game is than this one it usually just ends up ranging anywhere from "okay" to "mediocre", because in the end musical tastes are subjective. I don't see any reason to demote Soken just because "you liked FFXI a lot."

    There are some 1.0 Uematsu songs I still really miss (especially all three city themes), but to pretend like Soken is bad or needs replacing is pretty silly.
    Different composers have different ways of bringing the world to life I enjoy the other composers but I feel that the music in this game is too edgy and forgetful at times compared to FF11 and other works done by Mizuta, and his battle themes are just awesome. I remember most of his battle themes I don't remember most of the FF14 original battle themes.

    I bet if you heard battle themes like this in XIV you would remember them even more lol.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FlQ...53DEA255C991A7
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGnPdF02g0w

    And the world has some of the best OST.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TnSMXcp2Hg (Forest)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AHrZVKt-tM (Open World)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc1bc1f_t-U (Undead Shipyard)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    edgy
    Hey look ma, it's that word again! Please stop using the word edgy to just mean anything you personally don't like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    Exactly Heavenward is basically just a huge remix everything sounds the same lol. Its not bad just want something different
    I know you're just exaggerating for effect, but you do know what a leitmotif is, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    Hey look ma, it's that word again! Please stop using the word edgy to just mean anything you personally don't like.



    I know you're just exaggerating for effect, but you do know what a leitmotif is, right?
    I understand that it's the main theme of heavenward and I love it, but I feel that artistically he should collab more often with other composers it would make each expansion sound a bit more different. If stormblood main theme is remixed once or twice its ok but we don't need 7 different remixes of the same theme. I respect his music and I love many of his themes but to me it just feels like forced remixes even the duelling music is a heavenward remix I mean seriously why? what does duelling have to do with heavenward.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTGhDklTOL0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    I understand that it's the main theme of heavenward and I love it, but I feel that artistically he should collab more often with other composers it would make each expansion sound a bit more different. If stormblood main theme is remixed once or twice its ok but we don't need 7 different remixes of the same theme. I respect his music and I love many of his themes but to me it just feels like forced remixes even the PVP music is a heavenward remix I mean seriously.
    Maybe I should have asked if you knew what a "remix" was, instead?
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    I must admit one thing, while Soken isnt bad at all, i do find that he is better at making remixes and updating older themes, than composing original songs. This might be a consequense of his very tight schedules and timeframes in wich he gets to be creative.

    I have never touched FFXI, yet for some reason i feel that every theme ive heard from it has a soul. Like im in the game and feel nostaglic to a game i have never played. Its hard to describe.

    Soken needs a break. Many of the newer themes have been lackluster and unimaginative. Baelsars wall and Zurvan springs to mind instantly. In 3.5 theres only one added theme i liked, and that was a leftover from 1.0- Quicksand. The current theme of Sohm Al hard mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    I must admit one thing, while Soken isnt bad at all, i do find that he is better at making remixes and updating older themes, than composing original songs. This might be a consequense of his very tight schedules and timeframes in wich he gets to be creative.

    I have never touched FFXI, yet for some reason i feel that every theme ive heard from it has a soul. Like im in the game and feel nostaglic to a game i have never played. Its hard to describe.

    Soken needs a break. Many of the newer themes have been lackluster and unimaginative. Baelsars wall and Zurvan springs to mind instantly. In 3.5 theres only one added theme i liked, and that was a leftover from 1.0- Quicksand. The current theme of Sohm Al hard mode.
    Exactly Heavenward is basically just a huge remix everything sounds the same lol. Its not bad just want something different
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    Exactly Heavenward is basically just a huge remix everything sounds the same lol. Its not bad just want something different
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWGTgkq5gEw

    Quote Originally Posted by XanderKing View Post
    It's funny, when searching for "FFXIV OST" through Youtube, all the results are heavily primal and raid related, so it seems people share the same mindset.
    Because those are in the majority. Every dungeon, raid and primal have their own songs, while most quests have to share their songs with other quests.
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    No, thank you. Soken is FFXIV's composer and he does a pretty damn good job. Please keep your FFXI nostalgia away from FFXIV's dev team.

    While I agree that 3.5 wasn't the best patch musically, Soken proved he's one hell of a composer with songs like Equilibrium and Unbending Steel. Not only that, but the whole Alexander raid series music is so well done that I can't imagine Alexander with a different music now.
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