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    Quote Originally Posted by LilLemay View Post
    while it would be cool to start in Ishgard you've gotta think, there's no proper ''starting'' area outside of Ishgard, the only connecting area is the level 35+ coerthas central highlands, and the only other areas near it are the sea of clouds (50+) and Azys Lla (55+) so no matter where you go from there you'd just get decimated, unless they just straight provided you travel to one of the other starting cities, but at that point you may as well just start in those cities
    Thats true, from a pure gameplay perspective, it wouldnt make much sense to start in ishgard. Everything around you is lvl 30+

    From the lore side, it wouldnt make any sense either. When you pick your starting city, you dont pick your characters hometown, but rather the first town they came to on their journey as mercenary. For all we know, the WoL might be an Ishgardian from the brume that traveled to Ul'dah to earn a living.
    Ishgard is closed to visitors until you as the WoL open their eyes and make them realize they need help. The ishgardianss tolerate your presence in the region of Coerthas but wont let you in the city itself until you save it from a huge dragon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    Thats true, from a pure gameplay perspective, it wouldnt make much sense to start in ishgard. Everything around you is lvl 30+

    From the lore side, it wouldnt make any sense either. When you pick your starting city, you dont pick your characters hometown, but rather the first town they came to on their journey as mercenary. For all we know, the WoL might be an Ishgardian from the brume that traveled to Ul'dah to earn a living.
    Ishgard is closed to visitors until you as the WoL open their eyes and make them realize they need help. The ishgardianss tolerate your presence in the region of Coerthas but wont let you in the city itself until you save it from a huge dragon.
    I remember reading/watching from somewhere that elezens were split into 3 different variance wildwood, duskwight and ishgardian? So shouldn't we have 3 instead of 2 variants? Pls educate me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    I remember reading/watching from somewhere that elezens were split into 3 different variance wildwood, duskwight and ishgardian? So shouldn't we have 3 instead of 2 variants? Pls educate me
    Do you have a source for that? I've never heard of anything like that... >o>
    Ishgardian Elezen are just Wildwoods who traveled north to Coerthas.

    To quote the Lorebook, from the Wildwood Elezen passage:
    "Though nowadays, "Wildwood" is typically used to refer to the forest-dwelling Elezen, the Elezen of Ishgard too, share the same common ancestry."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Do you have a source for that? I've never heard of anything like that... >o>
    Ishgardian Elezen are just Wildwoods who traveled north to Coerthas.

    To quote the Lorebook, from the Wildwood Elezen passage:
    "Though nowadays, "Wildwood" is typically used to refer to the forest-dwelling Elezen, the Elezen of Ishgard too, share the same common ancestry."
    So basically the ishgardian elezens are wildwoods?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    So basically the ishgardian elezens are wildwoods?
    Yep. Though some are duskwight, mostly from the Dzemael house. They are a bit mixed in the grey city. But none of them are a unique breed of elezen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    So basically the ishgardian elezens are wildwoods?
    Yep.
    It works like this:
    During the First Astral Era, Elezen were the first to inhabit Eorzea, living in its vast plains. Hyurs came and started to take over, so the Elezen left, some going north to Coerthas, forming Ishgard, and some going to the Shroud, forming Gelmora. From the Gelmora Elezen, some of them went underground, becoming the Duskwights, while those who stayed on the surface would eventually form Gridania with the Hyurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Yep.
    It works like this:
    During the First Astral Era, Elezen were the first to inhabit Eorzea, living in its vast plains. Hyurs came and started to take over, so the Elezen left, some going north to Coerthas, forming Ishgard, and some going to the Shroud, forming Gelmora. From the Gelmora Elezen, some of them went underground, becoming the Duskwights, while those who stayed on the surface would eventually form Gridania with the Hyurs.
    Except for the Astral Era part, this is essentially correct - the above happened early in the Sixth Astral Era (which lasted nearly 1600 years).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    Except for the Astral Era part, this is essentially correct - the above happened early in the Sixth Astral Era (which lasted nearly 1600 years).
    I meant "since" the First Astral Era. >///w///> ()
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