[Dev Request] How about Ascian/Garlean Armor?

[Enur]

I appreciate you taking the time to give your opinion in a more debatable manner than the other gentleman.

I thank you for not replying in unbridled rage

While you do not wish for gear that breaks lore, it could be said that the scions gear breaks lore given how we are able to purchase and wear Y’shtola and Thancreds 3.X outfits as well as use their new hairstyles on top of being able to wear their 1.0-2.0 outfits as well.

I am fully aware that the scions clothes were purchasable. But, it must be noted that their clothes were not what they were remembered as, they were more than a set of fancy sheets (until HW that is :/)
Their clothes were just some remaining 1.0 models. If you took the pieces one by one, I doubt anyone could recognize them

Aside from there being a lore reason why we shouldn’t be able to wear Ascian armor there have been numerous reports that their numbers might border on unlimited due to the fact that the lesser ascians (Such as the Paragons of the 12th) have been seen possessing the bodies of the deceased and the living. We don’t know exactly how many numbers are in their ranks but it’s also not far fetched to believe that there may be some walking amongst the regular NPC’s we see on a day to day basis. They don’t always have to be wearing their robes to be called an Ascian.

Sure, there may be ascians walking with us. But they are hidden for a reason. Ascians are hostile creatures. They don’t mean well. Them requiring to stay hidden in order not to get attacked is even more the reason for why whe shouldn’t be able to dress in their clothes.
Now if we got the ascian suit and when we equipped it it would make us attackable by every other player and npc in every zone, and making us unable to do quests, sure. I would be able to live with that as it could be seen as playermade events- “A paragon visiting! Kill it!” or something similar. However knowing SE policy on pvp in the open world, I doubt this will ever happen as cool as it may have been.

Before you use the above as a reason that I should be fine with not having the Ascian garb added as an in game option for players; Balmung is a Roleplay rich server and many roleplayers have opted to take on the roles of NPC’s deceased or otherwise. We even have multiples of some players playing the same NPC and our server is not against the idea of it. True there may be some individuals who could do without a canon lore NPC that’s supposed to be dead up and running around but for those who interact with these people who play NPC’s and for the players playing them themselves, it’s a very fun way to go about playing and it shows how much we truly cared for or liked these NPC’s to want to portray them in our own ways.

Im sure there would be many people on balmung that would use this garb as you intend. But just as many would use it to delegitimize the ascians. ERP with the dark lord of shadows? Sure every Thursday at 8pm.
This is going to be abused. Your ideals are going to be hammered to the ground. People wont keep it at “lets rp im an ascian”.
While an innocent idea at first, many people will not stay that way.

Adding the armor used and worn by these NPC’s is just another way to show their dedication to the role and to add a bit of immersion into their time spent playing. I know the NPC rp’ers in my Free Company enjoy the interactions with regular players but they feel that the interactions are not quite touching the tip of the ice berg as they’ve sought means to enhance it by matching our current armor count to try to resemble the canon verse of the NPC they choose to represent.

In canon, you are the WoL. And everyone else is adventurers. Sure I recognize there are those who choose to represent a certain npc, but those people are not canon.
If we got the ascian garb ill bite my nonexistent hat if there wouldn’t be a parade of dancing ascians doing the moogle dance.

While your argument is valid that these suggestions do pertain to villains; the same could be said for the Heavensward armor and named weapons of the 12 knights being released soon for the players to obtain and wear. It wasn’t a highly requested item in terms of it being requested here on the forums, but it was requested non-the-less. I am also aware of the Garlean armor argument and while I am in no way suggesting the armor of Gaius to be made available as the armor of those imperials was tailored to their specific status and rank, I do suggest an alternative.

The armor of the heavensward is not armor native to villains, but rather ishgard itself, a city of which we are on fairly good terms with the lord of the knights. It is an easy addition as all the gears are just reskins of existing armors, so no refitting has to be done.
As to the Garlean armor, wasn’t that your point? That you wanted the shiny red/white/gaius variants available? I thought that was the point. And if that is the case, I must disagree. See ascian reason.
If it was regular soldier armor, I would be fine. Everyone can be a soldier, although they would still be shot if seen near Ul’dah. Im split on this issue as I am aware we have a set of low ranking soldier gear consisting of a hat and shirt. As others have mentioned I’d be fine with some more exquisite gear obtained from another stealth mission.

As for your average garlean legatus being sighted within city limits; Balmung does have a wide array of Garlean themed Free companies and people who play Garleans, whether subjugated into the nation or born pure blooded - they walk among the streets of our city states just fine.

Balmung created initiatives are not canon. End of story. A garlean would get shot on sight if near Ul’dah, unless it was backed up by a fleet of airships.
Nero had to disguise himself just to enter a free unaffiliated city (mor dhona), just imagine what a garlean would have to do to enter Gridania.

Again I thank you for your opinion as they are good for discussing the pro’s and con’s and being able to form decent counter arguments to keep the discussion on track instead of just flat out saying “Nah, we don’t want it because it would break the lore.” It’s always better to say how you feel about it rather than how you think everyone else would feel about it.

Thank you for being a better sport about it.

Yet you can get Odins armor and nobody bats an eye.

Odin is not a major villain. He is a FATE that spawns every couple of hours with some interesting lore. I doubt we will see him again, some things are better left a mystery. We don’t need answers to everything.