Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
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It's also unwanted when everyone but the tank ends up tanking (as what kept happening, hence why we even spoke up in the first place).

What, then, when you ask and they say "no" despite the issues? If you can't even perform your role at a baseline function, yet want no advice, then you're immediately back to square one. You're "forced" to suffer through a run with incompetent players, leave and suffer a penalty, kick them yourself, ask to be removed, or give that [unwanted] advice. Considering you're a mentor, especially if you're wearing the crown, most other players would probably expect you to say something (which I have also seen others ask players why mentors aren't mentoring).

It's a catch-22.