Seriously, when are you guys gonna nerf ASTs again? Its highly needed.

[KusoWat]

Someones triggered by truth. Geez. Also slander? Please point it out cause you use it but I don't think you know what that word means. Im slandering ASTs for being op? Im slandering the discord for not pvping? I am not naming names so therefore I cant slander anyone. You're the only individual who knows which discord im referenceing so you need to step back a bit and think about it.

Edit: I joined the channel that best suited my reference to find the players I was looking for. Maybe add more channels to it to better reflect what goes where.

You're delusional kid, stop lying. None of what you say is true lmao.

The channel's purpose is stated in the welcome page when people first join it, it's highlighted, hard to miss, and self-explanatory.

[Maddonious]

You're delusional kid, stop lying. None of what you say is true lmao.

The channel's purpose is stated in the welcome page when people first join it, it's highlighted, hard to miss, and self-explanatory.

Lie , u asked people to boost u some 8v8/fl win and no1 in that community does wintrade, u just left because no1 wanted to boost you lol

I didnt asked to be carried. I asked for others who want to pvp but only the "inner circle" ever did anything. I already stated by my reason for leave so stop being butthurt. Back on topic please. This isnt a "Maddonious didnt like the way we ran things" thread. Its nice you care about my opinion tho.

[Cleanse]

An organized group of players will always seem overpowered when they go against a PUG. Crowd control the AST to split them from their team and then overrun them.

The whole job's identity is based around mobility, thus I don't think they need a nerf at all.

[Isala]

ASTs are OP? Since when? All I have to do is time my BRD burst for when someone else is beating on them, breaking their shields, and "Bye bye, AST!" Can't balance people while dead now, can you?

[kensatsu]

Ast can be soloable, but the main problem is there... why soloing in pvp when you have your group.
And for the wintrade, sorry i don't trust Dark False, oops i mentionning someone, don't ban me SE. it's a joke XD.
But i am pretty sure there no wintrading thing on the pvp discord.
I don't even get why players doing pvp a lot need to wintrade.

[Zojha]

Crowd control the AST to split them from their team and then overrun them.

A strategy that works against each and every job in the game sans maybe PLD with HG up.

If that is a valid argument on the matter of job/role strength, then logically nothing can be OP or in need of a nerf until that strategy fails against them. So far, it only reliably failed against the guy with the pomanders, thus he was the only one ever in need of a nerf.

Interesting concept. Not very helpful for determining power differentials in practice, tho.

[loreleidiangelo]

Idk, I main AST and short of being dogpiled there's not much anyone can do to me while my cooldowns are up. Yesterday in FLs alone I kited 6 bad Maelstrom players all the way from their base, which my team capped, back to my base about halfway across the map. I eventually died as I ran out of cooldowns and got double LB'd (lol), but it was amazing that 6 bad players wasted all that time trying to do it. This was in Nocturnal, too...I might have actually lived if I was Diurnal (second healer in party was AST so didn't have much choice).

That said, a WHM might have done just as well in a similar situation, and maybe SCH too. AST in particular has just always had a hugely mobile kit that translates much better to PVP than it does to PVE, so the gaps between healing roles are a lot more noticeable. Not sure it requires a nerf, though - WHM CC is pretty powerful, and Sacred Prism dirts all over Retrogradation...I think SCH might just need a buff is all (for PVP at least).

[KusoWat]

A strategy that works against each and every job in the game sans maybe PLD with HG up.

If that is a valid argument on the matter of job/role strength, then logically nothing can be OP or in need of a nerf until that strategy fails against them. So far, it only reliably failed against the guy with the pomanders, thus he was the only one ever in need of a nerf.

Interesting concept. Not very helpful for determining power differentials in practice, tho.

I'm not sure if you agree that AST isn't overpowered in PvP or that it is. What exactly is the point of the observation about how CC can kill everyone, AST is no exception.


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It's mobility doesn't constitute for OP when the main ability that they can spam is comparably weaker than the alternative by 250+ potency. Spamming a.bene on someone is not going to keep them alive vs competent dps.

Healers are designed around healing through the damage thorough put of 2dps/1tank to a degree, something all three healers can accomplish.
A lot of the players who beleive AST is OP either don't know what to do or fail to even consider whm/sch strengths too. So if the main complaint is that they can't be solo'd then the statement is moot since the other healers can't be solo'd either.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I don't think it is an issue and I play MNK and AST. I think some DPS expect healers to be that squishy they can just flick them to get a kill.

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