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    Xyno's Avatar
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    Onyx' Xyno
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    Pugilist Lv 80

    Will we ever get the contestant for Scholar?

    Good day

    Right now the only class, which doesnt have the REAL contestant in the raid party is Scholar (Astrologian is a joke, not the real contestant ). Any NOT TOTALLY overgeared party need to have Scholar or will be deaths

    So, simple question- when in the game will appear the real contestant for the Scholar, so the player will have a choice whom to take- Scholar or...? SE adds new DDs, new tankss, but what about the contestant for Scholar?

    Thank you
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Well Yoshida admitted both Warrior and Scholar are overpowered and will probably not receive as much of a buff as the rest will coming in Stormblood.

    So 4.0 is your answer.
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    Player GMERC's Avatar
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    Saltire Dalamiq
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 73
    Astrologian. Just because Scholar is better doesn't mean current-Powerlevel AST can't fill the shield healer subrole. The problem here is less that current-AST can't compete with SCH and more that AST so greatly outpaces WHM in what it brings to a group that the ideal composition involves bringing the best of both worlds.

    While AST and SCH changes must be part of the equation, the most important element in play right now will be giving White Mage a killer app, not creating an unnecessary fourth healer. If every healer has something great that none of the others bring to the table, while a meta will undoubtedly emerge, the decision on what to bring won't be as clear-cut.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    Keisero Starborn
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Jesus christ, people still think Nocturnal AST is garbage. Did you even read the 3.4 patch notes?
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    Merida Quigg
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    I know a lot of raid groups running Whm and Ast. They are doing pretty well, so I don't agree it's Sch or bust. War on the other side yes it's required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeridaQ View Post
    I know a lot of raid groups running Whm and Ast. They are doing pretty well, so I don't agree it's Sch or bust. War on the other side yes it's required.
    3.4+ content much easier than previous, so I almost can agree, that Scholar can be replaced there. But in common- not
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    Jesus christ, people still think Nocturnal AST is garbage. Did you even read the 3.4 patch notes?
    SCH is an amazing shielder, AST brings the best utility when it replaces WHM, so point still stands, SCH has it's place safe and AST pretty much too now (but by replacing WHM, not replacing SCH).
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    Li'a Mimerya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 60
    A Nocturnal AST's biggest weakness is the White Mage co-healer.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    SCH is an amazing shielder, AST brings the best utility when it replaces WHM, so point still stands, SCH has it's place safe and AST pretty much too now (but by replacing WHM, not replacing SCH).
    ...Did you not read the patch notes? AST is the better/stronger shielder and can do it for much cheaper and, in the case of single target, while dodging/running for mechanics. Adlo deploy is stronger, but that's a 2 minute CD that takes setup and has a short range.

    ...But I guess this was what someone above was complaining about, yeah, people apparently didn't read...

    You take SCH for DPS, fairy healbotting, and non-shield mitigation.
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    Miyha Manaya
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    Behemoth
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyno View Post
    Astrologian is a joke, not the real contestant
    Hmmm, what was that?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZnMUtocBos

    Perhaps the sound of you being laughed off the forums? :'>

    EDIT: Ooooh, it's YOU again! Why are you still here. ;-;
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