Why FFXIV is losing me :,(

[Yasuhiro]

Don't know if you haven't tried this yet but for T7 and such put Bonus right at the start of your PF or say it's for Wondrous Trails. that'll bait people who need it for their journals as for one hit kill mechanics when it comes to burning you just gotta keep at it til you know the HP percentage that triggers it.

[ElHeggunte]

How about instead, something like this:
stop increasing the iLevel every patch... instead, release multiple contents on the same level so people will divide among them.and can switch between them. let all of the contents have competitive drops.

This won't accomplish anything besides funneling everyone into the easiest of the available content. You're presented with a duty that takes 5 minutes, a duty that takes 10 minutes, and a duty that takes 20 minutes. They all drop the same level of loot. Why would anyone pick the 10 or 20 minute duties outside of slight variances like minions, titles, or other vanity stuff?

*The maximum ilvl increases every six or so months, by the way, not every patch.

Check this out... Normal mode contents are for pure story right? they are not hard, you can get them in Duty Finder... yes they die after a while but you CAN find people to play them because some people out there are finishing the story, right?...thats cool.
the problem is with Challenge contents. i.e Savage, Extreme Primals etc. those die quickly, and it's hard to find someone to play with.
Why don't we have those challenging contents, increase their difficulty with patches? so they would be in sync with current iLevel???

And have them drop the current highest ilvl? Then that effectively makes brand new content DOA. There's no point in going into and learning new fights when you can get the same gear from farming a fight you've been able to do in your sleep for months.

have them drop a special currency that is exchangeable for current iLevel gear ?
like you can take T7 Savage loot to someone who will make it i270 for a fee or a token. something like that...

And would again instantly invalidate any content above T7 Savage or whatever the lowest cutoff is for that token. If you give players that kind of leeway, they will almost always seek out the easiest path and hammer and the hell out of it, ignoring everything else.

Perfect example: Relic/Anima steps requiring light grinding. Players spam the trials or duties that can be done in the window of five minutes and ignore the laundry list of other content that also gives light.

whatever it is, you have to keep those contents alive, because if the game is insisting on me being present as soon as the contents drop to clear it,.... yeah, no, thanks.

Nope. After a point content just needs to be left alone. It's impossible for every piece of content to stay relevant forever and it's madness to try.

If you want to do older content that badly, maybe you should change your approach. I see groups in PF doing older content all the time to farm things like mounts or gear for glamour and they tend to fill up fast. Maybe change your wording? If you've never done the fights before, maybe mention they'd get a first timer bonus for WT Second Chance points, everyone loves those. Or try to find a FC that likes doing older content. If you can't find one, make your own.

Keeping years old content relevant isn't something that SE is or should be responsible for. Gotta make your own way, chief. And that would be true regardless of whether this game stayed vertical or went more horizontal progression: sooner or later, old content dies off and trying too hard to keep it relevant will just kill off the new content instead.

[JediFirefly]

I don't know about anyone else, but I cringed everytime the OP used the word "contents"

[Fahad]

I'm back lol

[randysquirrel]

Maybe try a new data center? Since the cross world pf I've managed to find groups to clear t6s - t9s, and they can actually all just be burned down. t7s we still had to do the very first voice lookaway (only affects three people), then is straight burn, and t9s you still cant put meteors together, like in normal, but is just burn after that

still feels a bit hollow to have cleared them this way, but meh

[Atoli]

No one is stopping you from opening your own party.
On my data center, at least 1/3 of Zurvan parties in pf are learning parties, and there are tons of parties for old content, unsynced, sure, but still.
Lots of people still farming old primals for ponies, tons of people doing it for Khloe, even Battle on the big bridge got a card farm party the other day.

If you want to do it synced instead, again, OPEN YOUR OWN PARTY.
I refuse to believe you are the only person on your entire data center who wants to try old content synced.
Heck, we even have entire Linkshells dedicated to clearing content synced on min ilvl. The "reason" you complain about is entirely self-made.
This has literally nothing to do with vertical progression. Players will always gravitate towards what is the easiest/fastest to do and gives an adequate amount of rewards.
Just how there are tons of Garuda EX farm parties for Nightmare and tank mounts but not a single one for Ifrit EX or Titan EX - because they offer the same reward but are a lot harder to do.
Blame human nature, if you must.

[Riardon]

No parties in PF which satisfy your goal or requirements or rules?
Make one of your own and stop waiting for someone else to read your mind and create a group for you.
It's simple as that.
Use PF it doesn't bite.

[MagiusNecros]

Oh you can form a learning party but are bound to always get someone who wants a learning party to be a farming party. Somehow.

"Oh you died to the first 2 mechanics? You should know the fight now."

Unless you have a FC that wants to learn the fight with you it's gonna be hard to find one.

[Greven]

I understand a bit what you mean, the best option would be to find a nice group from a LS or FC that shares the same interests so they can and want to go with you. It's kind of a rare situation but there are so many people in so many servers, you could at leat try that way. Best of luck!

[MeridaQ]

I agree there are some older content that isn't run a lot. Whenever I put up a PF for old coil there are always a few who join want to do it. Might take longer but still works. I think LS or FC is best bet though. I have helped clear many people interested in old content. People ask and we set time aside. As for zurvan learning/clear/farm seems to be all the same. I wouldn't stress over it too much people get way too angry there. :3