Steamline the Newbie Experience!

[Schellering]

Kicking a person to level 50 doesn't really sound like the first step in streamlining the newbie experience, that's imo making it much harder to streamline.. because now you have all a sudden thousands of quests you can be doing, some of which are very important, as well as so many areas to visit, dungeons to check out, its just a massive all a sudden unlock.Even if you're still being booted to level 50, specifically making you level 50 isn't the queue to streamlining.. that's just the key to making sure you can play with friends, but you'll still likely be massively confused .

I understand where you are coming from, and I agree that the suggestions all together would make leveling too fast. Not all of them are meant to be implemented together, thus separate suggestions. I talked with a few newbie friends of mine on another server, and the main issue they brought up was the patch progression, especially the 2.X between ARR and Heavensward

[Shougun]

I understand where you are coming from, and I agree that the suggestions all together would make leveling too fast. Not all of them are meant to be implemented together, thus separate suggestions. I talked with a few newbie friends of mine on another server, and the main issue they brought up was the patch progression, especially the 2.X between ARR and Heavensward

I'm not sure exactly what part of the patch progression you're talking about but I can agree at least for myself when new stuff was added was every time I had to go check online for what to do lol. That was especially evident when I came back and was like trying to play where is waldo for the next step in the MSQ haha.

I know at some point they'll have to level boost players or seriously and costly redesign old content, so I'm not terribly against level potions .. it just seems like something that will have to happen if not now sometime later.. But I am concerned if they don't have a better guiding system that new players will either be blessed with finding either a person who has a guide, finding the guide, or just wandering aimlessly around having no idea what is actually a "good" idea to do. Because every NPC and their grandmother will have a ! and something maybe useless maybe important to do and so you'll just ignore it all except the most obvious stuff. Like I've met people who had no idea the game had PvP, or the GS lol. Add a level skip and story skip and people will not realize big parts of the game, perhaps missing important things for progress or just really enjoyable content/world building experience.

Most people don't even know there are NMs inside of leve quests (which is pretty cool), because leve quests are sort of a pain to activate now and FATEs are so plentiful (which is a major reason why I think a system that helps you obtain them remotely/via stream and add adequate bonus reward for mixing up content would help revitalize a dying but not useless content).

So I think we agree haha

[Schellering]

Add a level skip and story skip and people will not realize big parts of the game, perhaps missing important things for progress or just really enjoyable content/world building experience.

I completely agree that the skips have their issues. Some of the go here and come back then go back out quests need to be looked at and those are the ones most people would look to skip. Possibly just streamline the main story by actually using the Scions Linkpearls they give you then hardly ever use. I mean, half the time that I was doing the main story, I remember thinking, why couldn't you have just told me that remotely? Why did I have to come here and then go back to where I just was?

[Shougun]

I completely agree that the skips have their issues. Some of the go here and come back then go back out quests need to be looked at and those are the ones most people would look to skip. Possibly just streamline the main story by actually using the Scions Linkpearls they give you then hardly ever use. I mean, half the time that I was doing the main story, I remember thinking, why couldn't you have just told me that remotely? Why did I have to come here and then go back to where I just was?

Yes... So much yes.. You did not need to have me come to you in person to tell me to leave five zones over to buy some soup to come back five zones - I could have just bought the damn soup and brought it to you! lol :P

That's not even a change just for new players, that's a change for my sanity lol.

Also I'd love to see NPC use the mail, I thought it was the coolest thing when I completed a quest for someone in WoW and then like 4 days later I received a follow up mail from that NPC and a reward or once it was another quest. That was just such a small detail moment for me.

[BHGlobbd]

This is NGE, New Game Experience, this is what killed Star Wars Galaxies.

[Adire]

If only they'd add a magical git gud potion for 100 bucks or so. We'll likely need it more than ever with all the people skipping the progressive learning experience offered by leveling properly.

[Khemorex]

the fastest way to lvl is , if u dont actually look at ur xp and ur current lvl every 30 sec :P leave it be play the game and in no time ur be lvl60 :P

u know if u look at the clock to much , it will go slower and slower :P

[Riardon]

Buy potion, skip content and lvls.
Skip cutscenes.
Suddenly find yourself in Stormblood areas.
You don't understand a thing of what's happening and what those colored boxes do on your skill bar.
Skip 4.X cutscenes cause you don't understand a thing of what they talk about.
Be a terrible player in dungeons.
Complain that the community is toxic or that the game has no content.

I understand that some people want to pay money to just pew pew mobs but I'm afraid those skip potions will have some disastrous side effects.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Buy potion, skip content and lvls.
Skip cutscenes.
Suddenly find yourself in Stormblood areas.
You don't understand a thing of what's happening and what those colored boxes do on your skill bar.
Skip 4.X cutscenes cause you don't understand a thing of what they talk about.
Be a terrible player in dungeons.
Complain that the community is toxic or that the game has no content.

I understand that some people want to pay money to just pew pew mobs but I'm afraid those skip potions will have some disastrous side effects.

Where have you been? Potions aside since they are not a thing yet, that's what people do right now! People skip cutscenes because they don't want to bother with the story and you have veteran players telling newbies to skip cutscenes so that things can go faster. Despite the novice network and the novice hall, you STILL have people who don't know the basics of their job and then cry foul when people tell them why they are messing up.

Skip potions would not change anything. All those things you fear were happening for a long time.

[Adire]

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No one really cares if you skip cut scenes. However, players have to level right now. And getting one skill at a time every so often makes learning far easier and far better than getting 20 or 30 skills all at once with no prior practice.

The problem does already exist, but jump potions will amplify it. When I took a break from the game for a few months, I forgot some of my rotations for certain classes. Having to relearn them from scratch was rough, I still am not at the level I'd like to be at with them. So even if you have people who want to be good players but used a jump potion, chances are they'll be overwhelmed similarly.

And honestly, the novice network isn't really helpful for anyone except people wanting an extra chat room, a pegasus, or a crown.