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  1. #21
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    Suggestion number 4: While I'm sure they are already thinking up a way for people to skip patch storylines, I'm also certain that players will not be able to skip the main storyline. Not only would it leave you completely lost in the game's narrative unless you watched a lengthy cutscene equivalent to a feature film, but it would overall hinder the experience for that player since they would never be able to return to said story.

    Suggestion number 5: Literally no one wants this, ever. Either it's only available to new players, and you completely overload them with information and they are lost when it comes to actually playing their first job (this is also implying that you'd be able to skip the main storyline, which would be awkward if you couldn't), or you make it available to everyone, and then it becomes a question of whether or not that becomes a pay to win type of item. Hell, if you're willing to go that far, why not just make Zodiac weapon replicas available for purchase on the Mog Station when 4.0 comes out.
    Yoshi already outlined a detailed approach to how they would implement a jump potion. There will be two potions, one allowing you to skip everything from prior expansions and begin at the start of the current one (Stormblood, in this case). The second will simply boost your level while skipping nothing; intended for people wanting to level secondary jobs without the grind. People who opt to purchase a skip potion do not care about the story. They're playing exclusively for the gameplay or social aspects hence why this appeals to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    There, fixed it for you
    Actually, you broke it. For 1-50 leveling, PotD is the fastest way. Even from 50-60, dungeons only come ahead with rested experience unless you have extremely fast queues. Fates have long fallen out of favour nowadays.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 02-05-2017 at 01:41 AM.

  2. #22
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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    Yeah, the Development team already said they were going to make it so new players could "skip" patch quests and content, but they definitely didn't say anything about the 2.0 and 3.0 main storyline.
    This is how Yoshi-P said the jump potion that exists will change once Stormblood is released.

    Finalized Changes to the Feature upon the Release of Stormblood

    As I stated previously, the specifications mentioned above are for the potions in the Chinese and Korean versions of the game. We've decided that the potions will change in following ways for the Chinese and Korean versions upon the launch of Stormblood.

    The story jumping potion will become the “Adventuring Records of Heavensward.” (we are currently discussing whether or not to keep "Adventuring Records of A Realm Reborn").
    Upon using the “Adventuring Records of Heavensward,” the player character will have completed the main quest up to the final quest in patch 3.5 part 2, as well as accepting the initial main quest for Stormblood.
    The "Adventuring Records of Heavenward" can only be purchased if the player has purchased and registered their copy of the Heavenward expansion.
    Players will be able to boost one job to level 60 with the job jumping potion (the level 50 version of the potion will be removed).
    The gear that the players will receive will be changed to level 60 gear for the corresponding job upon purchasing the job jump potion.
    This is how the jump potion will also be implemented if they brought it to other regions.
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  3. #23
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schellering View Post
    Suggestion number 5: Make a potion that allows you to auto level 1 job to lvl 50.
    Level skip potion will come in the cash shop. It will give the job of your choice lv 50 or level 60 and mark every class/job quests of that job as cleared until that level (it don't touch the MSQ). Work only once each potion.
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  4. #24
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riardon View Post
    Buy potion, skip content and lvls.
    Skip cutscenes.
    Suddenly find yourself in Stormblood areas.
    You don't understand a thing of what's happening and what those colored boxes do on your skill bar.
    Skip 4.X cutscenes cause you don't understand a thing of what they talk about.
    Be a terrible player in dungeons.
    Complain that the community is toxic or that the game has no content.

    I understand that some people want to pay money to just pew pew mobs but I'm afraid those skip potions will have some disastrous side effects.

    Where have you been? Potions aside since they are not a thing yet, that's what people do right now! People skip cutscenes because they don't want to bother with the story and you have veteran players telling newbies to skip cutscenes so that things can go faster. Despite the novice network and the novice hall, you STILL have people who don't know the basics of their job and then cry foul when people tell them why they are messing up.

    Skip potions would not change anything. All those things you fear were happening for a long time.
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  5. #25
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Wouldn't mind if Glamour/Dying/Mount Riding was added earlier to be honest.
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    Erin Grey
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
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    No one really cares if you skip cut scenes. However, players have to level right now. And getting one skill at a time every so often makes learning far easier and far better than getting 20 or 30 skills all at once with no prior practice.

    The problem does already exist, but jump potions will amplify it. When I took a break from the game for a few months, I forgot some of my rotations for certain classes. Having to relearn them from scratch was rough, I still am not at the level I'd like to be at with them. So even if you have people who want to be good players but used a jump potion, chances are they'll be overwhelmed similarly.

    And honestly, the novice network isn't really helpful for anyone except people wanting an extra chat room, a pegasus, or a crown.
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    Amaranth Scarlet
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    I don't won't skip potions added to the game they should just lower the exp needed from lv1 to 50 and maybe remove some of the filler quests from the ARR to HW some of them are pointless
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  8. #28
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    The only thing I'd suggest would be to trim some of the non-essential MSQ from between expansions, such as the ARR-Heavensward gap. It's not the content that gets new players in my experience, it's the humdrum of chocobo-sniffing quests when there's very little action, no new features, and no useful gear, experience, or items as rewards while their friends are all off doing the latest and greatest.

    That aside, I think FFXIV does a great job on the new player experience. I was new to FFXIV last summer and am new to WoW right now, and have dabbled in Guild Wars 2 and Blade and Soul. FFXIV stands leagues above the others in ease of entry (WoW in particular is a giant pain in the ass).
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    Last edited by FunkYeahDragons; 02-05-2017 at 07:45 AM.

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