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    Zodathria123's Avatar
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    Metallia Corvina
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 51

    Crossbar/Hotbar Macros. Macros are awesome

    you all think macros suck you all think they slow their not as fast as you are....you are wrong here you go. not all macros are bad. and they do take up a-lot of space. so please give us more then 100 macro space.


    wanna judge ppl who use macros wanna say they are bad. where you are "wrong" this is why this is my paladins macros

    My Paladin Macros - P
    R1+X = Button
    or First
    Macro -
    /micon "Fast Attack"
    /ac "Fast Attack" <t>
    /wait
    /ac "Fight or Flight"
    /ac "Sheltron"
    /chotbar change 2 (for joystick)
    /hotbar change 2 (for pc)

    R1+X Button (Put on Page 2)
    /micon "Savage Blade"
    /wait
    /ac "Bloodbath"
    /ac "Sheltron"
    /chotbar change 1 (for joystick)
    /hotbar change 1 (for pc)

    R1+Y Button (put on Page 2)
    /Micon "Riot Blade"
    /wait
    /ac "Bloodbath"
    /ac "Sheltron"
    /chotbar change 1
    /hotbar change 1

    Reason why have Bloodbath, Fight an Flight And Sheltron up all time kinda need to have them up moment you their up rest of your skills not so i wouldn't suggest putting your defensive cds in a combat macro

    on page 1
    Y Goring Blade
    Squire - Royal Authority
    Triangle - Rage of Halone

    on page one you want to put combo finishers on Squire, Triangle and O so what will happen is

    all this only 4 giving you more space to work with

    you rapidly switch between page 1 and page 2. watch the cooldown dont spam the abilites wait GBC is finished their you go

    Defensive Cool-downs
    /micon "Bulwick"
    /ac "Rampart"
    /ac "Foresight"
    /ac "Awareness"
    /ac "Sentinel"
    /wait
    /ac "Stoneskin"

    Flash/Scorn
    /micon "Circle of Scorn"
    /ac "Circle of Scorn"
    /ac "Flash"

    Provoke/Shield Lob
    /micon "Shield Lob"
    /ac "Provoke"<t>
    /ac "Cover" <tt>
    /ac "Shield Lob"<t>

    Swipe/Silence/Stun
    /micon "Shield Swipe"
    /ac "Shield Swipe" <t>
    /ac "Spirits Within" <t>

    Power Healer-
    /micon "Clemency"
    /ac "Convalence"
    /ac "Divine Veil"
    /ac "Clemency"

    those who say macros are slow. clearly has messed with them or has never truly mastered them. taken the time to understand them. it is proven a player uses correct macros can out damage a player who manual presses their keys by 40% . player who uses keyboard not a controller doesn't have mobility a player with a ps4 controller does. never will achieve it. even if they think they will. thats if your using a keyboard play this game

    i think yes 2.5 macros should be updates cause without them they never achieve mobility a player has with ps4 controller. should they cattter to pc players. yes they should cause they sell pc versions of this game. to day they don't need upgrade their macros is equal in saying they dont need sell this game to pc players
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    Last edited by Zodathria123; 02-03-2017 at 02:21 PM.

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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Instead of using three buttons for your 1-2-3 combo, you're using two whole bars. That's bad.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 02-03-2017 at 04:16 PM.
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    seekified's Avatar
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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I can't tell if this is serious or not. I'd also like sources to this "proof" that players using macros for GCD skills out-DPS players who don't, because frankly it sounds ridiculous.

    Macros do not queue. That simple fact is enough to reduce your DPS output, because everything will be delayed and won't be executed unless you spam the button towards the end of the previous GCD. That's simply how it is. The fact that macros can't do proper /waits catered for your actual skillspeed just makes it worse.
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    HakaseNyan's Avatar
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    Suzu Hakase
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zodathria123 View Post
    it is proven a player uses correct macros can out damage a player who manual presses their keys by 40% . player who uses keyboard not a controller doesn't have mobility a player with a ps4 controller does. never will achieve it. even if they think they will. thats if your using a keyboard play this game
    [Citation needed]
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Please test it on raid first before you saying "those who say macros are slow. clearly has messed with them or has never truly mastered them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    Please test it on raid first before you saying "those who say macros are slow. clearly has messed with them or has never truly mastered them."
    Indeed. I love how the game has been out for over three and a half years, and here comes someone whose highest job is a level 51 BLM basically telling us that we've all been doing it wrong for all this time.
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 92
    Actually, no one is arguing that macros are bad in general. You can do amazing things with macros.

    ...just not the things you are doing with them

    Macros are great for crafting! Macros are awesome to create extra mini-menus on your hotbars! Macros are helpful to announce stuff in chat!
    Macros are fun when just goofing around in social situations. And they are even, in special cases, helpful in combat, to place ground AoEs, or select mouse-over targets for certain skills, and the like.

    What they are not great for...is pretty much everything you have done with them.
    You need to understand that 1. macros can't queue up skills, meaning you will waste a lot of time waiting between skills instead of instantly using one skill after the next and 2. I don't even PLD much but why the heck would you use all your cooldowns at once in the first place...that's not good cooldown management regardless of macro usage or not (it just gets infinitely worse by how long it will take to use them all with a macro...and why is there a random stoneskin cast thrown into the mix?).

    Quote Originally Posted by Zodathria123 View Post
    it is proven a player uses correct macros can out damage a player who manual presses their keys by 40%
    Oh I see! Then I totally have to belive you now, thank you for that arbitrary made up number!
    You know what's also proven? BLM can out-dps any other dps class by 180% if played correctly, no matter how good the other players may be!
    New meta guys, everyone be sure to only bring 4 BLMs for every content now, because a random lady on the internet told you it's proven
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    CookieMonsta's Avatar
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    Shirayuki Kova
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    Dragoon Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Zodathria123 View Post
    you all think macros suck you all think they slow their not as fast as you are....you are wrong here you go. not all macros are bad. and they do take up a-lot of space. so please give us more then 100 macro space.
    Uhh I don't know how you managed to expand a friggin 1-2-3 one hotbar setup to become 3 friggin bar switches and still think its faster lol.
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    Franz D'epinay
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    I read the first paragraph as a rap and oddly enough it works...
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    Akatsubaki Dovakin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zodathria123 View Post
    snip
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