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    all the guys i know just want the darn ears. one specifically so he could have a glamour of ralphie's bunnysuit from a christmas story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    One is wearing proper clothing for their gender, the other is not.
    did u kno both male and female rabbits have ears?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texa View Post
    did u kno both male and female rabbits have ears?
    This thread is about the bunny suit in case you didn't know. If it was just the ears, I'd have no problem with it.

    Edit: Last post of the day, hit my limit.

    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Uh... Felicia... you did not just go there.




    This is a sidequest in the game.
    Uh...if you had read a little more, you'd see that I have acknowledged numerous times that crossdressing is in the game as comedy. Occasionally, as comedy . Not frequently to be taken seriously, which is what some people seem to want.

    Hildebrand also breaks from the game in many ways, almost always in a comedic way. This is no different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun View Post
    No. I'm saying it's just as ludicrous to say men can't wear pink because it isn't masculine, as it is to require male players to play only male characters, and female players to only play female characters.

    I am making assumptions that you're a man who is uncomfortable with male characters wearing "feminine" gear.
    I don't have a problem with men wearing pink. Men in pink clothes obviously designed for a woman and to compliment a woman's body is what bothers me. Men in any color of clothes designed for women bothers me actually.

    That's also absurd....I have no problem with people choosing to play as the opposite gender, and that has nothing to do with crossdressing. If someone wants to play as a male, they should embrace clothes aesthetically designed for males. Playing a male to dress like a female is counterintuitive and I imagine it's something only a minority of people do or find attractive.

    You really shouldn't assume though. If womens' voting patterns in the recent election in the US didn't convince you that we're capable of being at least somewhat conservative in certain ways, I don't know what would. If an interest in crossdressing is something we looked for in men in the majority, maybe it would be more accepted worldwide. But it's not. I wonder why?

    I find a man with masculinity attractive and/or comfortable to be around. I do not find a man with feminity and dressed as such attractive, only uncomfortable to be around. Is it weird to be that way as a woman nowadays or something? Good to know that being hetero-normative is unprecedented around here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Texa View Post
    yes i know, and currently dudes can walk around in just a speedo if they so please, and many do. there's like 5 of those and dozens of suits. the only thing that they currently don't have is the ears. this entire thing really just boils down to ears. which both sexes of rabbits have. rabbit ears are gender neutral. dressing slutty is gender neutral. i go into potd in my undies. i will run it in my undies with the rabbit ears once the boy avatars can too so we can have fun while you continue salt farming over a silly argument in the forums.
    There's a big difference. Most of the skimpy outfits for men in this game are clearly designed for men or are at least unisex. A man in a speedo is a man in skimpy men's clothing. A man in a bikini (i.e. with the top) with high heels is a man in skimpy women's clothing. Big difference.

    I think the bunny suit people have in mind for men here involves fishnets, maybe heels, frilly sleeves, a bunny tail....etc, right? That's by all standards very feminine. A butler-like suit as someone mentioned would not be and would be acceptable to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
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    Ah yes, the good old "Your opinion is different than mine so you must be trolling" shtick.

    How can I explain in a way that's more simple. A scantily clad female in clothes designed for a female is a different beast from a scantily clad male in clothes designed for a female. Comparing the two is like comparing apples to oranges, especially since one generally makes a lot of people uncomfortable while the other does not. Snowmen outfits and the like are no different from mascots. Shouldn't make you uncomfortable unless you have some kind of mild phobia to it.

    Also, this is Raubahn:



    As you can see, his "skirt" is akin to what a Gladiator or warrior from the Roman era would wear with a clearly masculine design. Not at all feminine, just historically masculine. Appropriate for his gender for the setting. A guy in a tight, frilly, actually feminine looking, etc miniskirt with fishnet stockings would not be. It would be feminine clothes on a male by both modern and historical standards.

    The outfit the huntmaster wears has the appearance of a shaman of sorts. Also historically masculine or unisex.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
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    The problem is that the more stuff like this is added, the more people like myself (which again, I would say are the majority if real life and MMO culture are anything to go by) will be bothered by it as it becomes more and more prevalent. We can't exactly hide people's characters from our view. Overdoing these things comes at a cost to any player who would prefer not to see it happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    This thread is about the bunny suit in case you didn't know. If it was just the ears, I'd have no problem with it.
    yes i know, and currently dudes can walk around in just a speedo if they so please, and many do. there's like 5 of those and dozens of suits. the only thing that they currently don't have is the ears. this entire thing really just boils down to ears. which both sexes of rabbits have. rabbit ears are gender neutral. dressing slutty is gender neutral. i go into potd in my undies. i will run it in my undies with the rabbit ears once the boy avatars can too so we can have fun while you continue salt farming over a silly argument in the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Crossdressing doesn't fit with the aesthetic of the game at all.
    Uh... Felicia... you did not just go there.




    This is a sidequest in the game.
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    The "male bunnysuit" should be a butler suit, not a dress, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Not sure what you're getting at here. You don't think it's possible for a woman to feel uncomfortable with crossdressing?
    No. I'm saying it's just as ludicrous to say men can't wear pink because it isn't masculine, as it is to require male players to play only male characters, and female players to only play female characters.

    I am making assumptions that you're a man who is uncomfortable with male characters wearing "feminine" gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    There's a big difference. Most of the skimpy outfits for men in this game are clearly designed for men or are at least unisex. A man in a speedo is a man in skimpy men's clothing. A man in a bikini (i.e. with the top) with high heels is a man in skimpy women's clothing. Big difference.

    I think the bunny suit people have in mind for men here involves fishnets, maybe heels, frilly sleeves, a bunny tail....etc, right? That's by all standards very feminine. A butler-like suit as someone mentioned would not be and would be acceptable to me.
    they want this

    with bunny ears.

    they already have frilly sleeves and heels, but fishnets for men would also be nice. men should be able to look like Dr. Frank N. Furter if they want to. we already have shirts, earrings, and necklaces for men that would work with that. i support this cause that was wonderful thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner View Post
    The "male bunnysuit" should be a butler suit, not a dress, anyway.
    The male version should be chippendales-esque. Like a collar with a bow and no shirt. And pants with a bunny tail. And shoes with bows on them. That would be equivalent to the female outfit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    If it were rampant among NPCs, maybe you'd have an argument.
    But you don't see NPCs running around in bikinis or wedding dresses, either.

    I'm honestly not sure if you're serious at this point or trolling, because the arguments you're presenting have no logical continuity between them.
    Skimpy outfits and weird costumes don't break your immersion due to the Glamour System lore, even though we don't see NPCs wearing snowman outfits outside of parody.
    Guys in skirts breaks your immersion despite the Glamour System lore, because we don't see male NPCs wearing skirts outside of parody.

    You've got two logically equivalent statements there that are somehow coming up with different answers; sounds like the problem is with the person doing the 'math' as it were.

    I should also point out that there's at least one prominent male NPC who wears a miniskirt and is completely serious about it - Raubahn, whose teeny tiny kilt is not in any way functionally different from a miniskirt. There's also the Flame Elite loincloth, worn by the male Huntmaster NPC at the Flames HQ, which is a long, bright pink skirt with sexy cutouts around the hips. So even if your argument were consistent, it still wouldn't be correct.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hirskuwil View Post
    What clothes are these? Specifically the second set as it looks really good
    1st set - Sailor Shirt (all classes)
    2nd set - Sky Pirate's Coat of Healing (Sky Pirate's Coat of Casting is same model with darker fringe)

    Both - Uraeus Skirt (all classes), Orison Thighboots.
    Everything dyed Colibiri pink.
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