PvP gear frowned upon outside of PvP. Why?

[Zhainekyo]

Ok, so ive read that pvp gear is frowned upon outside of pvp. For a casual player that does not raid, gearing a job thats not my main, i can throw on a set of 235 pvp gear infinitely faster than i can put together a lore set. I see that materia effects only work in pvp, so thats definitely a downside. But if the stats are weighted overall better for a pvp set than a lore set, whats the problem?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

They generally have worse stats, secondary stats, and a morale stat that has no effect outside of PvP.

[Anzaman]

There's no Accuracy on PvP gear, so you miss plenty of your attacks compared to PvE gear.

[Zhainekyo]

Im saying if the stats were better. So, i guess what im asking is, is there a downside i dont know about to pvp gear that makes it worse than pve gear as a blanket statement. Or is it case by case? Example: The Lore aiming head is inferior to the 235 aiming head. So, why would i not use the pvp head?

[Nezerius]

It's probably just frowned upon because i235 is considered low, nowadays. It's probably just fine for current experts, normal trials, maybe even normal Alexander. As for its stats, there's no indication that they're any lower than any other PvE gear, as the morale stat isn't part of the ilvl budget.

[Spiroglyph]

As a rule of thumb ilvl > secondary stats, since higher ilvl means higher main stats and the weighs of those will impact your performance more heavily.

Also... isn't 235 rather low nowadays? I mean, i250 is practically raining down on you from alex drops specially if you have a relic to finish, and lore isn't all that hard to get either, so why would you go for gear which has lower ilvl and secondary stats that are overall more useful in pvp?

For one, pvp gear in general has no acc and you're going to need some of that for pretty much everything that isn't pvp...

[Serilda]

I see that materia effects only work in pvp, so thats definitely a downside.

Comically they also don't work in PVP (of the type anyone actually does) either. Their continued existence remains a mystery to haunt those of us who hate looking 'incomplete'.

Nothing wrong with PVP to fill up some gaps while you're gearing up. In some cases the correct PVE gear for that ilv range has silly secondary stats anyway, so you can choose depending on the item. There are obvious shortcomings for some jobs and pieces (especially those which lean heavily on materia to stack up their secondaries enough already). If you're doing hard content you should try to tailor your stats more carefully and pick up the higher level gear.

[AxelDH]

Theres nothing wrong with it really. PVP gear will have exactly the same base stats as a PVE gear of the same item level. The only downside is that the materia slots in PVP gear are useless outside of PVP (and even then, materia effects are disabled in most PVP modes!). A lot of players dont bother melding materia in the first place, so you'll be no worse off than them.

Although 235 is a little low by today's standards. You should farm Alexander Creator (normal) for ilvl 250 gear, as soon as you are a high enough gear level to get in.

[JunseiKei]

Example: The Lore aiming head is inferior to the 235 aiming head.

Makai aiming head piece total statweight: 113.473
UNupgraded lore head piece total statweight: 108.349

You'd be correct, however, the piece is upgraded to:

Augmented lore head piece total statweight: 116.815

Doesn't really matter, because even the diabolic hat of aiming is better (133.106). Unless you plan to completely stagnate on gear, you're only hurting yourself in the end.

[Zhainekyo]

I had not noticed that there was no accuracy at all. Thats definitely a reason not to do a full set. But i dont see the problem with bridging a gap you have until you you can get a script piece to replace it. My Bard has 783 accuracy. Its driving me nuts. But i am capped on script all the time gearing other jobs. Replacing the torrent head with the pvp head alleviates this completely, replacing all that extra accuracy with crit while maintaining the skill speed.