One of the biggest issues is that many ppl thinks that with just one run they are ready to reliable farm... and it isn't.

I mean... ok... you keep training a primal... and reached many times under 10%.... finally one day you down it. And probably if you don't usually fail on 10% trys... probably you are ready to farm it after kill it.... cause last "for clear" trys, wipe wasn't cause of you. The thing is.... with Zurvan there's so many ppl that probably had luck and downed it because they were with other 7 good players... so skiped soar, did tank lb3.... ok maybe someone dead, just raise and continue fight to repeat cross, broken and kill him no problem. So in very few time they think... omg I killed it i can farm it -> no you can't, you need to go more clear partys, because you still need to learn the fight.

Ok... by party finder I can ask high dps for farm... and if something is wrong with dps, just kick the lowest or the one who failed (announcing this measure before start to avoid to premature party leave); as #2 and #4 and #5 says, is my pf, so are my rules; and if someone just insult me -> blacklist then, the toxic player is him not me. And ok... we skip soar and everything is fine... but if a create a party with just "zurvan farm birds" or join to a pf with description "zurvan farm birds - no bonus". I shouldn't expect skip soar.... nobody in that party should expect it... so everybody should know perfectly how to deal with soar bacause is a farm party and in a farm party everybody should know 100% whole fight. You can demand or not high dps... even with high dps and good players, sometimes there's mistakes and they are recoverable.... but everybody on the party know how to do soar in case of it.

The thing is I see many ppl who read "Zurvan Farm Party - High DPS - No bonus" go in. OMG even with 5 dps can't skip soar.... but.. well it's a farm party... omg, half party don't know hwo to do soar; so why do you join farm party instead another for clear party to practice more soar?