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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    I'm currently stationed in America for work with English localization and I see, just one business block alone, hirings that require you speak English and Spanish -- America is pretty diverse. Not to mention are you against playing with Europeans because they have German, French, Swedish and so on? It's also another diverse nation.

    However this should make more sense to you:

    World of Warcraft = American Product.

    Final Fantasy XI/XIV = Japanese product with international servers.

    People go into these two games knowing it's a game based and from Japan with servers with Japanese people and originally had no plans for segregated servers, if that's such a huge problem why did people even play it to begin with?



    You're required in American school system to take Spanish, so you pretty much understand exactly what I mean by other nations having to take English courses.
    1st of WoW is sold everywhere. and guess what? they have different lanaguages but to my knowing (as i never played wow beore in my life) they have the correct servers for it.

    America is divese ... but we do not need to learn JP.

    Next, ff11 and ff14 is the ONLY MMos with international servers. SE is changing that. so this point is moot.

    Lastly Your wrong. Other nations learn ENGLISH. When i was in school another langauge was NOT required to pass. Again as i said before if we were to need to learn another speak in america (AMERICA).. it be spanish NOT JAPANESE

    You clearly missed my whole point so ill start it again.

    No body buying a product in America should have to learn basic JP to use it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    1st of WoW is sold everywhere. and guess what? they have different lanaguages but to my knowing (as i never played wow beore in my life) they have the correct servers for it.

    America is divese ... but we do not need to learn JP.

    Next, ff11 and ff14 is the ONLY MMos with international servers. SE is changing that. so this point is moot.

    Lastly Your wrong. Other nations learn ENGLISH. When i was in school another langauge was NOT required to pass. Again as i said before if we were to need to learn another speak in america (AMERICA).. it be spanish NOT JAPANESE

    You clearly missed my whole point so ill start it again.

    No body buying a product in America should have to learn basic JP to use it!
    stating the obvious here but...this english-centric mentality is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bird View Post
    stating the obvious here but...this english-centric mentality is ridiculous.
    Indeed .
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    Quote Originally Posted by bird View Post
    stating the obvious here but...this english-centric mentality is ridiculous.
    Seriously... I didn't want to touch the subject, but I'd have to agree. I'm also from AMERICA but nationality to that extent really has no place in intelligent society anymore. The internet has changed the ball game.

    People should learn to be diverse and open. Accept new social challenges and adapt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bird View Post
    stating the obvious here but...this english-centric mentality is ridiculous.
    So asking to be able to use english in a country that speaks english is english-centric?

    Ok... We should all convert to glorious Nippon instead so we can capture all the chinpokomon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    So asking to be able to use english in a country that speaks english is english-centric?

    Ok... We should all convert to glorious Nippon instead so we can capture all the chinpokomon.
    Nope, just pointing out that on an international gaming platform, requiring international players to only communicate in English is English-centric.

    You're also assuming that I glorify Japan. Nope, not even close. I am responding to this thread as someone from a culture that has had intensely volatile relationships with Japan, historically and personally. It's easy for me to respond with pathos and disregard all objective reasoning. Unfortunately I cannot just dismiss "JP Only" shouts as discriminatory. Relevant section is below:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikita View Post
    One day a Japanese friend was shouting for a party and included "JP Only" in the shout.

    I know he is not a racist person, so I asked him why he said "JP Only".

    He said he meant that he could only communicate in Japanese.

    I asked him if he knew many English speakers feel it is discrimination and get upset when they see that.

    He was shocked and felt ashamed.

    He said would actually like an opportunity to play with English speaking players, but he could not communicate in English and he did not want to cause problems because he could not use the language.

    This will not explain all situations of JP Only, but this is one side of the story.
    I really believe that 90% of the time, JP Only shouts mean "I only speak Japanese" instead of "Japanese players only."

    Language and perception are such interesting things, n'est-ce pas?
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