JP Only

[DNO]

It's actually pretty known it's not discrimination or anything but people always state it as such so their point can be stronger, anyone who's played XI or even followed it knows a lot of Japanese players explained what they meant by 'JP Only', majority are wanting people in the same time frame or speak the same language. I've seen a great deal of "French/German Only" In my time in FFXI as well, were they discriminating against everyone else? More than likely not, people always take something the most negative way possible.



Then we'll have complaints x time period is a lot less lively versus y time period. Also this sentence was kind of confusing, the language barrier only exists because despite playing a Japanese Game most people don't even attempt to learn at least basic Japanese to communicate, it goes a long way, just like people of other nations are usually forced to learn some English.

The good thing about XI and XIV is that they're international games that actually mix servers, all MMOs with segregated servers only see English servers with most population (surprise) and the rest are fairly low and generally less cared for by Admins. Also, I see a lot of people who don't just speak English playing on 'English Only' servers because it usually has higher population, so in the end it does absolutely nothing.

I LIVE, WORK and play my video games in AMERICA. Here ALL products released are in ENGLISH. We are playing the ENGLISH version of a JP game.

With that being said why the hell should i learn basic JP? to party with people who want nuthin to do with me? If anything in AMERICA if we chose to learn a second language its OBVIOUSLY spanish. thats a stupid thought. Every other MMO has servers based on language. SE is BEHIND on this and that is why they are changing it.

Im FLOORED that you think its confusing for a product sold in America that people want to play with ENGLISH speaking people. Im... i ... i can't even comprehend that logic.

EDit:

People in other nations learn ENGLISH because more people speak it. Schools in America know this and are not required to do so. no one needs to learn JP im sorry.

[Jennestia]

I LIVE, WORK and play my video games in AMERICA. Here ALL products released are in ENGLISH. We are playing the ENGLISH version of a JP game.

I'm currently stationed in America for work with English localization and I see, just one business block alone, hirings that require you speak English and Spanish -- America is pretty diverse. Not to mention are you against playing with Europeans because they have German, French, Swedish and so on? It's also another diverse nation.

However this should make more sense to you:

World of Warcraft = American Product.

Final Fantasy XI/XIV = Japanese product with international servers.

People go into these two games knowing it's a game based and from Japan with servers with Japanese people and originally had no plans for segregated servers, if that's such a huge problem why did people even play it to begin with?

People in other nations learn ENGLISH because more people speak it. Schools in America know this and are not required to do so. no one needs to learn JP im sorry.

You're required in American school system to take Spanish, so you pretty much understand exactly what I mean by other nations having to take English courses.

[DNO]

I'm currently stationed in America for work with English localization and I see, just one business block alone, hirings that require you speak English and Spanish -- America is pretty diverse. Not to mention are you against playing with Europeans because they have German, French, Swedish and so on? It's also another diverse nation.

However this should make more sense to you:

World of Warcraft = American Product.

Final Fantasy XI/XIV = Japanese product with international servers.

People go into these two games knowing it's a game based and from Japan with servers with Japanese people and originally had no plans for segregated servers, if that's such a huge problem why did people even play it to begin with?



You're required in American school system to take Spanish, so you pretty much understand exactly what I mean by other nations having to take English courses.

1st of WoW is sold everywhere. and guess what? they have different lanaguages but to my knowing (as i never played wow beore in my life) they have the correct servers for it.

America is divese ... but we do not need to learn JP.

Next, ff11 and ff14 is the ONLY MMos with international servers. SE is changing that. so this point is moot.

Lastly Your wrong. Other nations learn ENGLISH. When i was in school another langauge was NOT required to pass. Again as i said before if we were to need to learn another speak in america (AMERICA).. it be spanish NOT JAPANESE

You clearly missed my whole point so ill start it again.

No body buying a product in America should have to learn basic JP to use it!

[bird]

1st of WoW is sold everywhere. and guess what? they have different lanaguages but to my knowing (as i never played wow beore in my life) they have the correct servers for it.

America is divese ... but we do not need to learn JP.

Next, ff11 and ff14 is the ONLY MMos with international servers. SE is changing that. so this point is moot.

Lastly Your wrong. Other nations learn ENGLISH. When i was in school another langauge was NOT required to pass. Again as i said before if we were to need to learn another speak in america (AMERICA).. it be spanish NOT JAPANESE

You clearly missed my whole point so ill start it again.

No body buying a product in America should have to learn basic JP to use it!

stating the obvious here but...this english-centric mentality is ridiculous.

[PrettyPrincess]

stating the obvious here but...this english-centric mentality is ridiculous.

Indeed .

[Issac]

stating the obvious here but...this english-centric mentality is ridiculous.

Seriously... I didn't want to touch the subject, but I'd have to agree. I'm also from AMERICA but nationality to that extent really has no place in intelligent society anymore. The internet has changed the ball game.

People should learn to be diverse and open. Accept new social challenges and adapt.

[Colino]

stating the obvious here but...this english-centric mentality is ridiculous.

So asking to be able to use english in a country that speaks english is english-centric?

Ok... We should all convert to glorious Nippon instead so we can capture all the chinpokomon.

[bird]

So asking to be able to use english in a country that speaks english is english-centric?

Ok... We should all convert to glorious Nippon instead so we can capture all the chinpokomon.

Nope, just pointing out that on an international gaming platform, requiring international players to only communicate in English is English-centric.

You're also assuming that I glorify Japan. Nope, not even close. I am responding to this thread as someone from a culture that has had intensely volatile relationships with Japan, historically and personally. It's easy for me to respond with pathos and disregard all objective reasoning. Unfortunately I cannot just dismiss "JP Only" shouts as discriminatory. Relevant section is below:

One day a Japanese friend was shouting for a party and included "JP Only" in the shout.

I know he is not a racist person, so I asked him why he said "JP Only".

He said he meant that he could only communicate in Japanese.

I asked him if he knew many English speakers feel it is discrimination and get upset when they see that.

He was shocked and felt ashamed.

He said would actually like an opportunity to play with English speaking players, but he could not communicate in English and he did not want to cause problems because he could not use the language.

This will not explain all situations of JP Only, but this is one side of the story.

I really believe that 90% of the time, JP Only shouts mean "I only speak Japanese" instead of "Japanese players only."

Language and perception are such interesting things, n'est-ce pas?

[darkstarpoet1]

You're required in American school system to take Spanish, so you pretty much understand exactly what I mean by other nations having to take English courses.

nice job. i was not required to take spanish and i went to an american school system. there is zero requirement that states you must learn spanish.

[tymora]

To DNO: You are such a close minded !@#!@# that I have no idea where to start. First and foremost, no one is making you learn JP.

Why do you have a problem with them playing in their own time and you playing on yours?
Splitting servers by region won't change the number of English parties you get at any given time. If it accomplishes anything, what you will get is...

1) the OVERALL total number of parties will drop sharply
2) Servers are dead at night.

*China's servers are on their own because they require modifications done to the game to suit the government's censorship laws.