JP Only

[KumaAkuma]

DNO with proposing regional servers you're being worse than "JP-onry". Not only do you do refuse to play with JP yourself, but you're forcing everyone else to not play with people outside of their region either. Why can't you just play on an international server and just ignore everyone you do not want to play with and let other people decide for themselves?

[AmyRae]

DNO with proposing regional servers you're being worse than "JP-onry". Not only do you do refuse to play with JP yourself, but you're forcing everyone else to not play with people outside of their region either. Why can't you just play on an international server and just ignore everyone you do not want to play with and let other people decide for themselves?

Regional servers are not going to solve the problem. It's just going to hide it for awhile.

But it's an understandable reaction to something that seems intentionally offensive. The thing is, it would quite simple to organize Japanese language only linkshells and parties by simply avoiding any use of the Latin alphabet and the auto-translate feature entirely. That would solve the problem perfectly. No offense perceived, and so none taken.

What makes it upsetting is that a person who wants nothing but to invite Japanese-only language speakers to their group has to take that extra step to use 6 Latin characters (letters they would not ordinarily use) strung together directed at English speakers that "you're not welcome." And this exact phrase gets repeated several times over and over the years among certain Japanese that want to exclude non-Japanese speakers. That seems intentionally hateful.

It would be as though North Americans learned the kanji (never using it otherwise) to make it clear Japanese weren't welcome in their group, and made it easy to cut-and-paste into all their in-game correspondence so that it was repeated over and over in the game for the Japanese to see. The thing is, we would not feel so comfortable doing that. In Canada it would be considered a hate-crime. In the United States they're taught that this sort of attitude stems from a horrible past of civil rights abuses in their own country. We're taught to give someone who wants to join you a fair chance like everyone else.

So, in that light, I think the oft repeated phrase "JP Only" is offensive because it goes against my values and the values of my country, even if those who use the phrase don't mean to offend.

[DNO]

DNO with proposing regional servers you're being worse than "JP-onry". Not only do you do refuse to play with JP yourself, but you're forcing everyone else to not play with people outside of their region either. Why can't you just play on an international server and just ignore everyone you do not want to play with and let other people decide for themselves?

1st off your wrong and you do not know me so stop trying to tell me how i am like.
I am not pushing anything SQUARE-ENIX talked about this idea and YES i like it.

2nd get this right. I am talking about SINGLE LANGUAGE servers not regional servers. There is a difference.
If SE is in fact talking about Regional servers then its also ok with me. Even if they leave it alone its ok with me. I am not forcing anything i just like the idea of the server change.

Also why is it ok for you to force your view of servers on me i can't on you? I do not like your way you do not like mine so i am forced to play how you want it? Its the interwebz iknow but damn son.

[Ilean]

DNO with proposing regional servers you're being worse than "JP-onry". Not only do you do refuse to play with JP yourself, but you're forcing everyone else to not play with people outside of their region either. Why can't you just play on an international server and just ignore everyone you do not want to play with and let other people decide for themselves?

I think enough points have been made for having regional servers so it's clear racism is not why we would like it.

Going "OMG RACIST" is a cheap shot, very FOX News.

I think open regional servers are the way to go, people can always play in a JP server if they like it.

[Spellbinder]

I think enough points have been made for having regional servers so it's clear racism is not why we would like it.

Going "OMG RACIST" is a cheap shot, very FOX News.

I think open regional servers are the way to go, people can always play in a JP server if they like it.

I still don't think splitting the community up into separate boxes is going to solve anything. People can already separate themselves if they want to.

[Ilean]

I still don't think splitting the community up into separate boxes is going to solve anything. People can already separate themselves if they want to.

The community is already split in many boxes.

At least splitting it by regions has the benefit of having more people speaking the same language and lower latency.

[Spellbinder]

The community is already split in many boxes.

At least splitting it by regions has the benefit of having more people speaking the same language and lower latency.

One. Assuming they do create new servers, they're still going to be in Japan so I don't see how that improves latency.

Two. How does taking a big group of people and splitting them into smaller groups create more people to speak the same language?

[Exni]

I still don't think splitting the community up into separate boxes is going to solve anything. People can already separate themselves if they want to.

This exactly. I have no idea why there are still people crying about JP/EN/FR/etc only parties.. If you want to PT with them so bad... learn some of the language.. and if not, then go PT w/ someone else. Players with apparently low self-esteem who rage over not getting into a party where ppl don't even speak your languague are just a lost cause. SE has already stated that they will keep the international servers, so those of us who CAN play nicely with other people in different languages will still be able to just as we do now. Whenever they get around to offering regional (or simply language specific) servers, those who can't handle a simple culture shock are free to scurry into their own dead servers. Good luck with that.

[KumaAkuma]

I think enough points have been made for having regional servers so it's clear racism is not why we would like it.

Going "OMG RACIST" is a cheap shot, very FOX News.

I think open regional servers are the way to go, people can always play in a JP server if they like it.

I did not say he was a racist. Please quote me if I did. I said that demanding regional servers for everyone is in the same league as JP-onry if not worse, implying "Pot calling the kettle black" (please don't even try to call me racist now for mentioning the word 'black". Please read this far and do not rip the story out of context like FOX news does).

[DNO]

I did not say he was a racist. Please quote me if I did. I said that demanding regional servers for everyone is in the same league as JP-onry if not worse, implying "Pot calling the kettle black" (please don't even try to call me racist now for mentioning the word 'black". Please read this far and do not rip the story out of context like FOX news does).

Again reading the thread would help you realize im not demanding anything. I said SE idea of Single speaking servers is not bad. Why? Because i hate that half the server does not invite NA. I never made a thread or anything on this topic i just posted in here and everyone went crazy.

I do not like that people are ok with some groups not wanting to party with you because of what you speak. I am sorry but i do not ike it.