Cross-Class - System = Is it Cancer?

[AmalonStar]

Do people like you actively avoid reading what you're replying to? I don't mean read it as in seeing the words on your screen, but actually READ it and take in the information contained in the words.

For someone that comments about having an open mind, yours is pretty closed.

You obviously missed the part where he had commented that whm has no uniqueness to it compared to ast and sch, that's where I disagree with him.

Secondly yea they could adjust the dmg mobs do and remove protect all together, only downside is whm has always had a protect spell.

Thirdly did you miss the part about me saying they could give mobs a de-buff ability to remove buffs on the party like protect which would in turn require the healer to watch for when buffs get dispelled to re-cast?

Who isn't READING everything now? I have an open mind about things and every job has something that stands out and makes it useful. Anything can use improvement, nothing is perfect.

[GMERC]

Thirdly did you miss the part about me saying they could give mobs a de-buff ability to remove buffs on the party like protect which would in turn require the healer to watch for when buffs get dispelled to re-cast?

That was me.

[Klamor]

again....

WHM used to have the benefit of having Enhanced Protect, which caused the WHMs protect to give the party a 10% Defense and Magic Defense buff, which obviously made having a WHM in the party mandatory, aside from the fact that SCH + SCH is still a horrible combination because of shields not stacking, among other reasons.

Right now, WHM has absolutely nothing that makes it stand out from the other healers. Protect is simplified and homogenized. AST's heals were buffed to be comparable to WHM in potency, with the flexibility of Diurnal/Nocturnal which WHM doesn't have. The cards... SCH deals more dps and is more mobile than WHM, coupled with AST's cards and having the fairy to heal while the SCH deals damage, the effect is multiplied. WHM no longer has any type of uniqueness that it may have once had. Tetragrammaton? Essential Dignity/Lustrate, check. Regen? Fae-whatever and Aspected Benefic, check. Asylum? Sacred Soil, and whatever the AST has that immobilizes them... check, check. The fairy is a more powerful version of regen than either of the other two healers have, with the benefit of being able to be micromanaged for party wide buffs, cleanses, speed buffs...

I commented about having Protect act like Stoneskin already, so... check. Unless you're talking about having mobs remove a 30-minute party-wide buff and have the healer spend the mana reapplying that same buff when a boss removes it from the tank periodically... then I have no words for that.

Frankly, I enjoy having Protect and Stoneskin as a Paladin, simply because I enjoy my own flexibility to assist the healers in casting Protect on a freshly-raised party member while the boss is charging up an attack, or Protecting/Stoneskinning my party members in PVP. However, something that the game expects you to have at all times isn't useful in the slightest. The argument could be made about tank stances and particular dps-stances (Fists of Fire) but the flexibility of not using those buffs is an actual nuance to those particular jobs that actually adds depth to the game in a risk/reward sort of fashion.

Do I really need to teach you about these jobs or can you at least do some research on your own considering you have these jobs at 60?

[Jonnycbad]

Thee extra damage from Balance is probably meant to be more or less offset by the extra damage WHM enjoys by having higher potency nukes and being able to nuke longer while regens and oGCD cures take care of things. By comparison, AST only has one oGCD cure, WHM has 3.