Cross-Class - System = Is it Cancer?

[Zodathria123]

Cross- Class System at its core isn't a bad idea in my opinion. however the road in watch they took. is they could majorly improve on this. by downright revamping current Cross Class System into a new one?
So Friends? Follow FF14 players what would be good Alterative or improvement to this. this mostly my opinion but please share yours.

1. I think we need new passives. traits, traits that you can only get by leveling another class. these traits new traits or passives are nice to have

Exp -"Below"
GLD/PLD - you give this passive to PLD/WHM/DRK/WAR/MRD/Sch/Ast
30 -your other jobs 3% Physical damage reduction to other tank jobs
50 -your other jobs 6% Physical damage reduction to other tank jobs
70 -your other jobs 10% Physical damage reduction to other tank jobs

30 - Unlocks - Provoke
50 - Unlocks - Convalescence
70 - Unlocks - Awareness

Melee DPS
LNC/Dragoon - "Monk, Ninja.Mac/Brd/RDM
30 - your other Jobs deal 2% more damage
50 - you other Jobs 4% more damage
70 - your other Jobs 8% more damage

30 - Unlocks Life Surge
50 - Unlocks Invigorate
70 -Unlocks Blood for Blood

-> additional abilities menu no longer have slots. meaning you can use them all at your disposal. however at the cost of increase in level and requirement.

Each Job offers something else and passive to the other jobs. so your rewarded for having muiti-jobs. meaning in the end you have stronger proformance

[LordNickage]

I believe they said they are doing away with it in 4.0 in favor of role based skills.

In the meantime... please look forward to it?

[AmalonStar]

They are already re-doing the current cross class skills, I think about all that is really known about it right now is that they are removing the class system and replacing it with role specific skills that are more mandatory to each role. Like provoke for tanks and protect for healers and so on

[Rennies]

I don't find that interesting at all. What if I don't enjoy Lancer's playstyle? I don't want to be forced to play a different class/job to be optimal at mine.

They are already re-doing the current cross class skills, I think about all that is really known about it right now is that they are removing the class system and replacing it with role specific skills that are more mandatory to each role. Like provoke for tanks and protect for healers and so on

Why do we -need- Protect, anyway? It doesn't really add any value to the game. It's a buff you apply at the start of the dungeon, and you ignore it unless someone dies. They could rework it so that it's a spell that offers more engaging play for WHMs.

[ErryK]

Why do we -need- Protect, anyway? It doesn't really add any value to the game. It's a buff you apply at the start of the dungeon, and you ignore it unless someone dies. They could rework it so that it's a spell that offers more engaging play for WHMs.

5% mitigation that doesn't need to be updated until after 30min? Sounds good.

[Gemina]

5% mitigation that doesn't need to be updated until after 30min? Sounds good.

You understand that the 5% mitigation is for every hit that is taken? Not just by the tank, but everyone? If you put the numbers together and look at the CDs and MP it takes to recover the difference, protect all of a sudden makes more sense. Those who would like to use regen to counter this argument should realize that regen is more effective when protect is up.

Protect is overrated in early content, and underestimated in later content. Trust me, your healer will always appreciate allowing them to get protect up, but it honestly isn't that hard to cast during battle. The loss of a gcd sucks, but it is just one and can be managed. That said, let your healer f**king cast protect.

[ErryK]

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Well, I wasn't really denouncing the uselessness of the skill, more like appreciating the fact that it does something that isn't flipping damage-oriented which everyone is so obsessed about i.e. Balance, Damage stances, etc.

[LalaRu]

Why do we -need- Protect, anyway?

You mean, damage reduction is useless?
In a time where average ilevel is 250 and duties were done for the times i80 was something reserved to high raiders, you are right. In duties where it is easy to end up to 1% of your HP, maybe not.

Not to mention, when a duty starts, everyone is silent and -expecting- protect being cast, anyway. It is the way to tell party "hey, yes, I'm the healer, here is proof!"

Back to the OP, I guess now that we know the skill system will be revamped, we just have to sit and wait what happens next.

Edit: on the other side, I'll agree about it not have to be a spell but an healer's passive party buff. But the game haven't player passives so (imo) the reason for it being a spell.

[Felis]

Why do we -need- Protect, anyway? It doesn't really add any value to the game. It's a buff you apply at the start of the dungeon, and you ignore it unless someone dies. They could rework it so that it's a spell that offers more engaging play for WHMs.

They can always change it back to 15 minute duration.
Also giving the other healers only protect and give proshell only to WHM

[SendohJin]

They can always change it back to 15 minute duration.
Also giving the other healers only protect and give proshell only to WHM

15 min is still too long. most enrage times are less than that.

i never thought about this topic but it totally makes sense to rework Protect so that it's more than what it currently is (a minor annoyance for healers when someone dies).

maybe they should make Protect and Shell operate more like single target Sacred Soil (i don't think it should be similar to Stoneskin or Galvanize at all).