Cross-Class - System = Is it Cancer?

[GMERC]

I don't think you understand what I mean by need. Also, I love playing Healers. I can say without a doubt that the removal/reworking of Protect can only make healing more enjoyable.

Finally, you and I have something we can agree on.

Protect is basically a non-skill skill, and I recently made a post about this on another message board.



A buff that you're never expected to not have doesn't need to exist, period. It should be changed into more active mitigation of some kind, and it should just become something White Mages handle as their own unique mechanic.

[Skeltal-Bons]

Finally, you and I have something we can agree on.

Protect is basically a non-skill skill, and I recently made a post about this on another message board.



A buff that you're never expected to not have doesn't need to exist, period. It should be changed into more active mitigation of some kind, and it should just become something White Mages handle as their own unique mechanic.

Isn't being a Gladiator/White mage hybrid the whole point of Paladin.
Because that's how it's always been, Paladin has always been about being a tank with medium-level white magic.
And protect itself falls into the same category, it's always been a buff you slap on at the start of boss battles and forget about.

[bass9020]

The cross class system could have been amazing if they really tried to rework it. Its kind of a shame they settle for what it is and changing to cater to the 1 job only people and the level potion users. Could the system use some work, yes. I prefer the 1.0 version where we could use any ability or spell but thats just me!

[CatStarPrime]

It's not much fun being forced to level additional jobs, you don't want to play, just to be a "complete" character. I don't want to be a BLM and having to take BLM up to get Swiftcast is a royal pain in the tuckus. I say the same for crafting; I want to weave, not hammer, and having to level CRP, CUL, and BSM to be a good Weaver, is also a pain. I've done it to do it, but I loathe those parts of "role completion". I'd trade this, for a linear single-role skill tree without looking back.

[AmalonStar]

I don't think you understand what I mean by need. Also, I love playing Healers. I can say without a doubt that the removal/reworking of Protect can only make healing more enjoyable.

Is it really that difficult for you to cast protect at the start of the dungeon? After that you don't normally have to cast it again, it's not like it has a long cast time like stone skin 2. As things stand right now it is one of the needed skills every healer should have, what would make things more interesting is if they gave mobs a de-buff skill to remove your buffs if they haven't done so yet, that would make you need to be paying attention to make sure it stays up.

I think there may be some mobs already that have de-buff skills to remove buffs on your party but I can't be sure.

[GMERC]

Is it really that difficult for you to cast protect at the start of the dungeon? After that you don't normally have to cast it again, it's not like it has a long cast time like stone skin 2. As things stand right now it is one of the needed skills every healer should have, what would make things more interesting is if they gave mobs a de-buff skill to remove your buffs if they haven't done so yet, that would make you need to be paying attention to make sure it stays up.

I think there may be some mobs already that have de-buff skills to remove buffs on your party but I can't be sure.

It isn't about something being difficult, it's about something being completely pointless. Protect in its current state is completely pointless.

[AmalonStar]

Finally, you and I have something we can agree on.

Protect is basically a non-skill skill, and I recently made a post about this on another message board.



A buff that you're never expected to not have doesn't need to exist, period. It should be changed into more active mitigation of some kind, and it should just become something White Mages handle as their own unique mechanic.

Making protect a white Mage only ability is just plain stupid, whm has the strongest heals out of the 3 healer jobs and not giving sch and ast protect puts them at a disadvantage. Yes they each have some skills to buff def on a limited short timer but that won't make a difference when their heals are generally weaker, sch without the fairy couldn't heal to save their life if the fairy gets killed which I have seen happen.

[GMERC]

Making protect a white Mage only ability is just plain stupid, whm has the strongest heals out of the 3 healer jobs and not giving sch and ast protect puts them at a disadvantage. Yes they each have some skills to buff def on a limited short timer but that won't make a difference when their heals are generally weaker, sch without the fairy couldn't heal to save their life if the fairy gets killed which I have seen happen.

It's almost like every healer should have its own perks to it, of which White Mage, frankly, has none. And don't say Curaga. But hey, you know what definitely isn't "just plain stupid" for only one healer to have? {The Balance}!

[AmalonStar]

It isn't about something being difficult, it's about something being completely pointless. Protect in its current state is completely pointless.

So the fact that protect gives a def buff to lower dmg taken is pointless you say?

I would think it lowering the dmg taken would save on the amount of healing you would need to do not to mention saving mp.

[GMERC]

So the fact that protect gives a def buff to lower dmg taken is pointless you say?

I would think it lowering the dmg taken would save on the amount of healing you would need to do not to mention saving mp.

Protect doesn't lower damage taken, because you literally never have a party that doesn't have at least one player who can cast the exact same Protect as every other player who has Protect. Fights are designed around always having Protect, the only time you don't is if you die. In other words, the current state of Protect isn't actually mitigating anything at all.