Please make 24-man content rewards merit-based.

[No2631]

Meaning that it follows the same system as hunts/FATEs: participation is required to receive rewards. Don't hit the minimum participation requirement, you get nothing, good day sir.

It's getting tiresome to see people in (outdated) 24-man content do nothing, release early to escape the fight, intentionally step outside or just generally AFK, secure in knowing that if they never roll for loot, they'll probably never get kicked for AFKing.

It's unsociable behaviour that shouldn't be as rewarding as it is currently.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Not going to happen. Next!

[Sil3ntxR3qui3m]

There would be no way to judge whether it was intentional or not. While it's frustrating, if you realize it, point it out, vote kick and move on.

[Malzian]

Guaranteed you'll see this: "Healer was friends with the other <some job here> so they didn't heal me and then wouldn't rez me so their friend could get the <job armor piece here> if it dropped!"

[Cinno]

secure in knowing that if they never roll for loot, they'll probably never get kicked for AFKing.

if you realize it, point it out, vote kick and move on.

If they never roll on the loot, they can't be kicked. You can't kick a player while theres loot that hasnt been rolled on. You also can't kick someone while in combat so..

1. Player A Afk's through first boss. People notice, but cant kick during combat. After the boss, player A doesnt roll on their loot. They're safe.
2. Group gets to the second boss. Player A still hasnt rolled, and cant be kicked. The group begins the second boss fight. Player A rolls on the loot during the boss fight, or the roll timer times out. He still cant be kicked, because the group is still in combat.
3. Second boss is downed, and the window for rolling on the second set of loot opens up. Player A can't be kicked during a loot roll.

And this continues all the way through the dungeon. Unless you can convince the entire party to not even open the chest, so you can kick them (which is unlikely cause there's at least one person per party that doesnt read the chat or care about any of this) or everyone wipes during the boss battle, Player A is completely safe.

It's very, very easy to AFK throughout the 24 man raids, with no risk at all of being vote kicked.

[Saccharin]

Meaning that it follows the same system as hunts/FATEs: participation is required to receive rewards. Don't hit the minimum participation requirement, you get nothing, good day sir.

It's getting tiresome to see people in (outdated) 24-man content do nothing, release early to escape the fight, intentionally step outside or just generally AFK, secure in knowing that if they never roll for loot, they'll probably never get kicked for AFKing.

It's unsociable behaviour that shouldn't be as rewarding as it is currently.

Solution is to kick. Too much apathy for bad behaviour in MMOs these days.

[Bixillarla]

No thanks. My computer loads some rooms in those raids slow and people are too impatient to wait and pull the boss before I get loaded in, if it was based on participation I would miss out on rewards because of impatient people.

[Vaer]

Best ones are when you get an in progress fill in when the boss is half dead, they roll on loot after contributing nothing and win.

[Lyshell]

No thanks. My computer loads some rooms in those raids slow and people are too impatient to wait and pull the boss before I get loaded in, if it was based on participation I would miss out on rewards because of impatient people.

And that is why that system is flawed. Many times I ran to the bathroom to pee in between a boss and got locked out or got locked out because I was joined mid fight. Too many scenarios for that to really have this idea implemented and not punish people. I get the need for wanting to punish the people but it's kind of hard to do that without punishing the innocent as well.

[Rufalus]

Not going to happen. Next!

Probably true but it's not a terrible idea and they took the time to share their thoughts, why be so rude to them?

I feel you've become infamous for this kind of post. You're incredibly prolific (almost 6K posts), one can't browse the forums for very long without seeing one of your replies, and a large percentage of them are rudely shutting people down like this.

On topic, I see that this lack of participation is a problem. The best solution that I can think of is reducing the loot timer so that it can't hang there too long and prevent vote-kicks. People will just need to place their rolls faster or risk missing the opportunity to roll.