Shatter

[Alysanne]

Ive been looking at the scores a lot, and one of the last games I played the adders far and away had the least amount of points from base and ice but had almost +900 from kills and they won by about 400 points.

Kills matter way more than people give them credit for and I always have a laugh when we "let them fight" and get ahead by about 200, and then at the end of the game the enemy team rolls in with 3 battle fevers and 5 highs and just destroys us for the win.

You should really be smashing the enemy team any time ice isn't up, especially if they are fighting someone else. There is no "let them fight." Trap one team between the other two and get your points and highs.

[Chaelyn]

Kills matter way more than people give them credit for and I always have a laugh when we "let them fight" and get ahead by about 200, and then at the end of the game the enemy team rolls in with 3 battle fevers and 5 highs and just destroys us for the win..

This is why PuGs/New PvPers lose a lot of games. They don't understand that 40% Damage buff and increased Adrenaline rates snowballs the game extremely hard. It is never a good idea to let 2 teams duke it out because if there is even 1 premade of 3-4 people with 1 good healer, they can wipe out a PuG Alliance alone and then move to your GC that sat back doing nothing.

[TiaHariberux3]

When you are caught in a battle on the beach and 3 A's spawn in the caves, there is zero chance of you winning.

I'm talking about a really close match. Flames at 600/800. 3 A's spawn in the caves(instead of.. anywhere else).

Just 8 people can prevent the taking of a base. Just be defensive instead of offensive.

Defensive playstyle wont win you matches though be it Seal Rock or Shatter Kills >everything else. (also covered in my fl guide on pvpaissa)

This is why PuGs/New PvPers lose a lot of games.

Shhh don't tell people the ultra secret mlg strat that gives veterans and their premades 90%+ winrate. kek

[Magic-Mal]

This is why PuGs/New PvPers lose a lot of games. They don't understand that 40% Damage buff and increased Adrenaline rates snowballs the game extremely hard. It is never a good idea to let 2 teams duke it out because if there is even 1 premade of 3-4 people with 1 good healer, they can wipe out a PuG Alliance alone and then move to your GC that sat back doing nothing.

Right!?

Whatever happened to sandwiching or.. what was it? Scissoring(?). Oh I forgot that's Seal Rock only. That's so 2015

Defensive playstyle wont win you matches though be it Seal Rock or Shatter Kills >everything else. (also covered in my fl guide on pvpaissa)

Not defensive from the beginning no. But I'm talking about being defensive when you have 600/800 points left and get lucky with 3 A/S ranks spawning within 10y of each other in the caves. It's happened too many times to count. When lucky spawns gives the win.

[FreyaKrescent]

S.E needs to make this game mode less RNG-centric and more like Secure which actually required fighting/tactical skills

[ShadowPrincessD]

So the other day I got slept on my round laner bird mount in shatter by an twin adders blackmage, while I was asleep the whole twin adders alliance ran by me LITERALLY and not one of them attacked me. Why? because they went straight towards the ice!!! That's soooo retarded!! Its PvP dude not lemme hit the ice and run away from a real fight!!

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

So the other day I got slept on my round laner bird mount in shatter by an twin adders blackmage, while I was asleep the whole twin adders alliance ran by me LITERALLY and not one of them attacked me. Why? because they went straight towards the ice!!! That's soooo retarded!! Its PvP dude not lemme hit the ice and run away from a real fight!!

I laughed and I shouldn't have, but it really seems that many don't know that getting hit on a mount applies a heavy debuff to that target, and effectively makes them a free kill. There's also the fact that IF you engage someone (as I've personally proven many times) there is the possibility of starting a fight you can't finish. I wish I earned gil for every overconfident WAR/MNK I've sent running from me, lol.

My other personal bit of facepalm-worthy entertainment is placing a turret and watching someone go full ham on it, then as it's nearly destroyed, replacing it in the same spot. All the while explaining to my team not to bother attacking turrets/pets unless you're building/keeping stacks, knocking it out of range, or if it's low enough to just be rid of already. In the time it takes to kill one, they can be resummoned.

[ListZilla]

I don't like shatter since it seems too pve oriented with all the giant ice blocks, I would prefer game modes where the actual PvP and objectives are a part of each like seal rock. You get the nodes, then you PvP to defend it.

[FreyaKrescent]

Guess People attacking ice is player vs player right? ...