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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    what ? you mean my cures can't KILL ?!


    @ OP:
    The reason CON has some nukes is for being able to solo primarily. It will naturally be geared to be a healer/buffer, therefore an ability that allows it to shift to a more offensive stance when not fulfilling that position in a party - so it doesn't fail incredibly on nukes.


    THM is clearly being geared to nuking as a purely DPS mage class. Expecting heals from THM will be silly post 1.20 as they can only cross-class Cure, but not Cura or Curaga.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junpei View Post
    I didnt mean to imply he would take cons job, I meant it would simple make con's job easier and there for allow him to throw in a couple of those nukes hes got laying about as he wont be require to heal the entire party, just the paladin.
    This isn't the case now. WHM/Conj will heal in a party/raid situation. Outside of soloing or farming I don't believe any nukes will be coming from this job/class. Also, thm/blm is stronger nukes... conj/whm nukes would be waste of MP to heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    This isn't the case now. WHM/Conj will heal in a party/raid situation. Outside of soloing or farming I don't believe any nukes will be coming from this job/class. Also, thm/blm is stronger nukes... conj/whm nukes would be waste of MP to heal.
    As stated above though, the CON nuke combos provide highly useful debuffs on the enemy,

    Increased damage towards the target and increased accuracy towards the target. landing those nukes at the start of a big fight could make a huge difference to the DPS dealt during the fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junpei View Post
    As stated above though, the CON nuke combos provide highly useful debuffs on the enemy,

    Increased damage towards the target and increased accuracy towards the target. landing those nukes at the start of a big fight could make a huge difference to the DPS dealt during the fight
    I know THMs will be adding those to their bars
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    They really should make damage and healing spells work together somehow
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I know THMs will be adding those to their bars
    I doubt they will, as combos can only be performed by the class that owns the abilities. Also, each of the 2nd Tier Con nukes are class-exclusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I know THMs will be adding those to their bars
    They won't because the spells that add the debuffs are exclusive.

    I understand Cnj needs offensive capabilities for soloing. But the fact that the second tier of the combos add AoE debuffs mean they're intended for group vs group situations.

    It just seems like a shameful waste to give Cnj the choice of that tactic if all they're designed to do is cure bomb. The point of this combo system is that everyone needs to be good at their class's combos in order to best benefit the group.
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    Last edited by Sephrick; 11-30-2011 at 11:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junpei View Post
    As stated above though, the CON nuke combos provide highly useful debuffs on the enemy,

    Increased damage towards the target and increased accuracy towards the target. landing those nukes at the start of a big fight could make a huge difference to the DPS dealt during the fight
    Those are debuffs, not nukes. The same can be accomplished by food, and other skills. I doubt these will be used by conj.

    There are only two things conj need to do in a party, Cure and Stoneskin (or whatever it's gonna be called. Revive is just cure from 0).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Those are debuffs, not nukes. The same can be accomplished by food, and other skills. I doubt these will be used by conj.

    There are only two things conj need to do in a party, Cure and Stoneskin (or whatever it's gonna be called. Revive is just cure from 0).
    To see that's what Conjurer's been reduced to makes me sad.
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