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    Adding a single new race with any significant variation from the existing races would essentially be an expansion in itself for the Art team because of the hundreds of gear items that would have to be updated to the new body shapes. This is why I am not expecting anything more than a new race with a tail / face / height changes in the future.
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    What if the reason why they don't implement hybrid races is because...

    it's an incredibly boring idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    So in order to recieve a complimentary fantasia without any extra costs i would have to pay extra for the Digital CE? wat
    Maybe say that in the first place then. :P

    With HW there was no Fantasia.
    People didn't buy CE for a Fantasia. If you want to argue that the base game should have included one: cool, I have nothing against that argument. But there was a version of the game that came with one, which is what I was pointing out vs no Fantasia whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    Maybe say that in the first place then. :P



    People didn't buy CE for a Fantasia. If you want to argue that the base game should have included one: cool, I have nothing against that argument. But there was a version of the game that came with one, which is what I was pointing out vs no Fantasia whatsoever.
    Thats indeed my argument. If the devs are going to use significant development time on a new race, at least let me access it for free once with the purchase of a standard expantion pack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    The point is, why would I buy an expensive CE purely for the fantasia? They have never given us a completely free one AFAIK (except the sub one).
    People wouldn't (and shouldn't.) Otherwise my point stands on what I responded to Enur with.
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    Hmmm... Au'ra and Lalafel hybrid... The only sure way to make a potato look more menacing is to give it scales and horns. >.>
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    'Hybrid' races are exceptionally rare in this setting. It wouldn't make sense for their to suddenly be a huge influx of half-elves or the like.

    Instead the focus should be upon expanding the customisation options for the existing batch of playable races. Any 'new' races are likely to just be slight tweaks of what we have already. We're unlikely to get anything that isn't just a Hyur with slightly exotic features. At least if the existing options are expanded we'll end up seeing more popularity for the more neglected playable race/gender combinations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    'Hybrid' races are exceptionally rare in this setting. It wouldn't make sense for their to suddenly be a huge influx of half-elves or the like.

    Instead the focus should be upon expanding the customisation options for the existing batch of playable races. Any 'new' races are likely to just be slight tweaks of what we have already. We're unlikely to get anything that isn't just a Hyur with slightly exotic features. At least if the existing options are expanded we'll end up seeing more popularity for the more neglected playable race/gender combinations.
    2.0:
    -Sudden influx a Miqo'te men
    -Sudden influx of Highlander women
    -Sudden influx of Roegadyn wom-...oh nvm that

    3.0:
    -Sudden infestation of Au Ra, a race never known to exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    2.0:
    -Sudden influx a Miqo'te men
    -Sudden influx of Highlander women
    -Sudden influx of Roegadyn wom-...oh nvm that

    3.0:
    -Sudden infestation of Au Ra, a race never known to exist.
    The developers simply realised what a terrible concept gender locked races were. Furthermore all of the original races were already well established within the setting. Au Ra weren't but at least they came from Othard - somewhere we haven't seen in-game yet. With that said, though, they ended up being less 'bestial' and more like the other existing races. Which led to many people finding them to be rather lacklustre.

    That doesn't really change the simple fact that half-elves have already been established as rare and heavily shunned. Elezen exist, Hyur exist - just expand the options available for both races instead of wasting development time on what will essentially just be a Midlander model with Elezen ears stuck onto it.

    Thankfully this setting takes itself seriously enough that dumb combinations like Roegadyn/Lalafell hybrids won't likely ever be a thing either.

    Maybe in 5.0 we'll get a new race. Who knows? It's not a priority when the existing races are in dire need of additional customisation options and representation.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 01-28-2017 at 06:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    That doesn't really change the simple fact that half-elves have already been established as rare and heavily shunned.
    In Ishgardian society.

    What about.. any other society? We already know Ishgard isn't terribly open-minded besides Aymeric lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    None of which are incredibly rare, unlike half breeds, and in particular half-elves.
    Thats not the point I was making. They are as rare as everything else in this game that suddenly appears.

    Roegadyn children are nonexistent. Female Miqo'te children were nonexistent until recently. Male Miqo'te children are nonexistent. Au Ra children are nonexistent. Au Ra in general were nonexistent until SE created lore. Male Miqo'te were very rarely seen as NPCs in story until after 2.0(so 2.1 and up).

    Au Ra have no background. No settlements. No nothing. They are just people that are in the world and the only explanation is "They're from Doma".

    SE can EASILY make a new race. Just like Au Ra, Yoshi can easily announce to us

    "Oh yeah, guys. I forgot to tell you. There's actually an entire continent that has an entire race of rabbit-like people and this city in particular actually knew about them the whole time and now they're all over the place in Eorzea but do not fear! As Eorzea as a whole doesn't care at all and only that city in particular acknowledges they exist within certain side quests that don't connect to the main story so you can play without anyone ever questioning what the heck you are."

    That is Au Ra
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 01-28-2017 at 07:07 AM.

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