the "relic" and "anima" and whatever 4.0 version of it should not be powerful

**Aquaslash** · 01-26-2017 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge

Guess what! you did A1S 100 times in 3.5 and how have an i270 wep with best secondary stats for your job! Grats!

Wait...really?

These weps should be for glam and/or at least 30ilvls lower than the current BiS weps in the game. You literally do nothing of skill to achieve exactly what those who bust their ass actually learning and mastering the game achieve.
Make these things glam only or reduce their ilvl and stats because its outrageous and insulting.
This needs to stop.

Alexandrian Metal Spear

?????

**ManuelBravo** · 01-27-2017 12:14 AM

So what is really the big point, step back and breath. Yes Relics are a grind...Guess what they always have, Raid weps are great as a temporary alternative. Over all I rather clear raids for content and focus my time on Relics. So instead of going back and forth, if in same server, Duel it out I say. In the end some players are better than others and while gear may have it's stats, what good is it overall if the player lacks the skill? If you get a raid wep Kudos to you, your awesome you know enough about your job to beat savage , if you have a relic, Props to you , I KNOW you have done the hard work and more likely mastered your job by doing so. Now if your a FFXI player and really want to know what a Grind is go do the relics there, you may still complain about it but guess what? it's sooo much easier now than it was at the beginning. Then again old the new cupcake generation seems to spoiled :P

**technole** · 01-27-2017 12:24 AM

We raiders already get a lot of advantages over those who don't raid at-all pretty much, so I don't make a big deal about it. I suppose it would help to lay out the advantages we get compared to those who don't raid and have to wait for a "catch-up" patch like 3.5 to get upgrade items. We already had one i260 weapon on week one, and before the end of the first month already four i270+ weapons in the raid.

When 3.4 dropped and the sooner your raid clears these floors weekly:

A9S

270 right side drops

A10S

270 left side
Gobcoat (belt/right side upgrade)
Micro-tome for a i260 weapon, earliest you could buy one was week 2. Everyone else that didn't raid had to do 7 weeks of A12N.

A11S

270 left side
Gob twine (270 left side upgrade)
Gobdip (270 shire weapon upgrade)

A12S

270 chest
275 weapon
Mount
Minion

**Aquaslash** · 01-27-2017 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by technole

*snip*

Tome weapons required 1000 tomes, so the earliest you could get one was week 3. Nobody had a 260 weapon on week one

**Yonanja** · 01-27-2017 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by Aquaslash

Tome weapons required 1000 tomes, so the earliest you could get one was week 3. Nobody had a 260 weapon on week one

They also needed 7 of the gear thingies to buy the special tomestone together with those 1k tomes, so no-one could get those weapons until they've completed 7 weeks or A12 anyways XD

**technole** · 01-27-2017 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by Aquaslash

Tome weapons required 1000 tomes, so the earliest you could get one was week 3. Nobody had a 260 weapon on week one

I meant we had the tome, and really on reset moment of week 3 you can buy since it's 50 more tomes.

Originally Posted by Yonanja

They also needed 7 of the gear thingies to buy the special tomestone together with those 1k tomes, so no-one could get those weapons until they've completed 7 weeks or A12 anyways XD

No you don't. One micro-tome drops weekly in A10S.

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