the "relic" and "anima" and whatever 4.0 version of it should not be powerful

[DinahDemiurge]

Guess what! you did A1S 100 times in 3.5 and how have an i270 wep with best secondary stats for your job! Grats!

Wait...really?

These weps should be for glam and/or at least 30ilvls lower than the current BiS weps in the game. You literally do nothing of skill to achieve exactly what those who bust their ass actually learning and mastering the game achieve.
Make these things glam only or reduce their ilvl and stats because its outrageous and insulting.
This needs to stop.

[ErryK]

Aren't you the same person who got salty about spending 16hrs trying to farm Zurvan EX on day one? (/think)

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Don't be so jealous.

[CamomileTea]

Savage raiding shouldn't be the only end-game goal for XIV. Don't underestimate the amount of time needed and dedication to work through an animal quest chain.
You may spend so many hours trying to clear A12, others may spend many hours getting their weapon.
It's not even bis yet until a later patch, the relics are enough however, to enter savage content and clear it.
If you are jealous of those with relics, just get one?

[DinahDemiurge]

Savage raiding shouldn't be the only end-game goal for XIV. Don't underestimate the amount of time needed and dedication to work through an animal quest chain.
You may spend so many hours trying to clear A12, others may spend many hours getting their weapon.
It's not even bis yet until a later patch, the relics are enough however, to enter savage content and clear it.
If you are jealous of those with relics, just get one?

Jealous isn't the right word. More like, I am annoyed that braindead grinds are given the same merit and achievement as mastering the game when it is clearly not the same thing.

[Lewtskie]

Nope, because perpetual hierarchy in this game only will only ever exist aesthetically. In time everything gets brought up to the same level before next major content cycles. Only difference will ever be those who worked their little butts off get to maintain top ilvl sooner and for longer.

Jealous isn't the right word. More like, I am annoyed that braindead grinds are given the same merit and achievement as mastering the game when it is clearly not the same thing.

"Ech, my hard work and dedication feels meaningless because these lesser entities have something almost as good as me, and soon just as good!"

You get some sweet looking gear, a kickass mount, and a title that these same individuals will likely not possess until far late into 4.0 when unsyncing Alex becomes a thing. Ilvl means nothing in the end and is far more shallow and worthless than you want to believe.

[XiXiQ]

...and yet another stellar idea.... if you want the game population to drop by 90%

[Launched]

Relic is the worst designed quest chain in the game. The last time it had a good step was the i80 one back in 2.0. I don't understand how people can grind so much for a weapon that doesn't really do any better than weapons of the same ilvl.

[Reynhart]

Or...they should still be as powerful as they are...but actually require skills to do, even if it's not raiding skills.
Considering that Eureka is probably where we'll get the new relics, and that it might be not a walk in the park to wander there, my hopes are for that solution.

After all, people who want the really easy way will still have the upgraded tome weapon to "brag" upon their ilvl, right ?

[CamomileTea]

Jealous isn't the right word. More like, I am annoyed that braindead grinds are given the same merit and achievement as mastering the game when it is clearly not the same thing.

I can understand it but you'll have to think that the anima weapon is not an Alexander weapon. They are still two different weapons and people shine the A12S weapons in a different light. The game doesn't work if they only give things to the tiny player base that clears the hardest content, it has to be accessible.
It's more of a time thing, they want the relic players to keep playing their game for many many hours, as a result the reward must be desirable and a glamour would not have the same effect.

You could argue that you don't need to do savage Alex to upgrade shire gear anymore, it's just what happens :/ there'll be something new for raiders to get, then the rest of the players can get it much easier