Will the combat-class changes go live pre-expansion?

[KusoWat]

...Because they should.

The large overhaul of the combat system should be implemented a few weeks prior to the expansion launch, to give players ample time to adjust not only their gameplay, but their hotbars and HUDs as well.

This method of implementing combat changes has been wildly successful and well received in other MMORPGs. Not only does it help the player base grow comfortable with the changes, but it also adds a reason for players to return and "prepare" prior to the big day, whether that be the running of then-old content with the new changes, or experimenting with the reworked jobs to get a feel for what you may want to "main" once the expansion hits.

I hope that in this specific case, SE takes a page out of their competitor's book of success.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

Because Blizzard does it SE should too? I don't know if i agree with that since WoW is bleeding subs super hard right now. I'd rather have a good MMORPG instead of a reskin of a failing game.

[dragonseth07]

Because Blizzard does it SE should too? I don't know if i agree with that since WoW is bleeding subs super hard right now. I'd rather have a good MMORPG instead of a reskin of a failing game.

It's a real shame you can't take good ideas from other games. It really sucks that only the first MMO to do something is allowed to benefit from a good decision. :/

[Jijifli]

Because Blizzard does it SE should too? I don't know if i agree with that since WoW is bleeding subs super hard right now. I'd rather have a good MMORPG instead of a reskin of a failing game.

So just because one person did something we can't do it too? I don't know if I agree with that since at this point everything's been done in some way. I'd rather be able to test my bars before the expansion drops instead of acting like WoW owns it.

[Pintsized]

Because Blizzard does it SE should too?

Because "not invented here" is a good reason for not implementing something if it can be shown to be useful?

The idea has merit since it decouples the launch of all new content with a re-engineering of basic play mechanics, however I don't see SE doing it.

[Shurrikhan]

Because Blizzard does it SE should too? I don't know if i agree with that since WoW is bleeding subs super hard right now. I'd rather have a good MMORPG instead of a reskin of a failing game.

We're literally talking about either revealing future changes so that the company can potentially respond to issues presented before the expansion's release, at which point the player-base won't have the luxury of complaint in the rush to early progression -- best is best, no matter if only 1% of choices are now viable, and no matter the quality of life that state gives. Just because Blizzard may on rare occasion present ideas for testing, ask for feedback, and follow some of that feedback (however poorly), doesn't mean that SE would be cloning another MMO by doing the same, rather than making changes without concrete notice and saying that it's "too late to change things now" upon release.

I just don't even... what?

[Arutan]

Because Blizzard does it SE should too? I don't know if i agree with that since WoW is bleeding subs super hard right now. I'd rather have a good MMORPG instead of a reskin of a failing game.

You know that actually, between FFXIV and WoW, it's the war. If something work on one, the other tries to copy it in a different way. Let's not talk about WoW's legendary weapons you need to upgrade like FFXIV's relics.

[Vaer]

Depends. If you get some of the abilities from job quests like usual you probably won't have those right away in any case. (i.e BLMs get fire IV at 60 which changes their rotation completely) Other games just give you most of the stuff right away other than possibly 1 or 2 abilities no quests required.

[AlphaFox]

I wouldn't mind just for the sake of seeing if its something people like or if they should scrap it and reinstate the original (or fine tune it) during the downtime but just my thought.

[Greven]

The preorder grants you few days of pre-access to the game where everyone can try the new things. You can even take a job up to the right level to do the main scenario with it if you want!