SCH secondary stats question

[Ama_Hamada]

so for the likes of Shire Preceptor's Hose, for SCH DPS and healing is it crit > speed > det? so i would meld speed in these?

[Rawrz]

so for the likes of Shire Preceptor's Hose, for SCH DPS and healing is it crit > speed > det? so i would meld speed in these?

You will never have room to meld anything, but crit or accuracy. Anywhere that has max crit, you'll want to fill with accuracy first. The cap is 593.

Typically when gearing I go for:

Accuracy to cap > Crit > Spell Speed > avoid Det. But some scholars really love det before SS. Det positively affects fairy embraces, where SS does not. I really hope they give SS a buff on pets to be at least a worse version of det.

[Ama_Hamada]

You will never have room to meld anything, but crit or accuracy. Anywhere that has max crit, you'll want to fill with accuracy first. The cap is 593.

Typically when gearing I go for:

Accuracy to cap > Crit > Spell Speed > avoid Det. But some scholars really love det before SS. Det positively affects fairy embraces, where SS does not. I really hope they give SS a buff on pets to be at least a worse version of det.

I do not do high end raids, I do not need accuracy

[Rawrz]

I do not do high end raids, I do not need accuracy

If you don't value accuracy and you ONLY heal. Crit>Det>SS. You shouldn't run out of MP only healing, so piety is out the window.

[Taika]

For SCH DPS, the stat weights are (tested in 3.4):

• WD: 9.128
• INT: 1.000
• DET: 0.190
• CRT: 0.266
• SS: 0.316 – 0.366
• Acc: Cap it

(https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/stat-weights)


I've been picking SpS instead of Det because of this, but still preferring Crit over SpS because of healing.

[seekified]

Yes, definitely go with Crit > SpS if you're not doing EX trials or Savage. Since most of your DPS comes from DoTs, SpS gets weighted much higher than usual (like Dervy mentions).

[Culfinrandir]

Det has a far lower importance in 3.x than it did in 2.x. Changes to it mean that even melding with nothing but det will barely influence the heals from your fairy so it's a waste. Crit is a great boon for most spells & is what I concentrate on where possible. I also like a lot of accuracy because even outside of end content it's possible to miss on things like hunts & that's a bit annoying. Before they changed the EX dungeons like Antitower back to low-accuracy it was a nightmare seeing Energy Drain missing.

Obviously the Dervy quote has INT instead of MND & is a mistake. It should be WD>MND>CRIT/SpS>DET with crit or sps being up to you, depending on if you are intending to heal better or DPS better (no brainer for me - heal!). Accuracy should be capped if you can.

[Rennies]

Det has a far lower importance in 3.x than it did in 2.x. Changes to it mean that even melding with nothing but det will barely influence the heals from your fairy so it's a waste. Crit is a great boon for most spells & is what I concentrate on where possible. I also like a lot of accuracy because even outside of end content it's possible to miss on things like hunts & that's a bit annoying. Before they changed the EX dungeons like Antitower back to low-accuracy it was a nightmare seeing Energy Drain missing.

Obviously the Dervy quote has INT instead of MND & is a mistake. It should be WD>MND>CRIT/SpS>DET with crit or sps being up to you, depending on if you are intending to heal better or DPS better (no brainer for me - heal!). Accuracy should be capped if you can.

It's not a mistake, you technically need higher INT to do damage, but Cleric turns MND into INT.

But yeah, I agree with your priority list. Det is garbage for every Healer.

[seekified]

Det is garbage for everyone.

Fixed that for you. Det is just a crappier version of the mainstats. I seriously don't get why they're keeping it around, it's not interesting at all.

[Fernosaur]

I do not do high end raids, I do not need accuracy

I understand that you probably don't get into Savage raids, but if you do Extreme primals you should get Accuracy anyways, as they tend to share accuracy caps or be close. If you do run EX primals, but you simply don't DPS at all on SCH then I'll be 100% honest, sell that materia instead of affixing it to your gear. Materia's effect on healing is kinda lame.