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    Player
    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    Considering in my experience you can still miss with no accuracy melds in the level 60 dungeons, melding accuracy to DPS is still a decent idea.
    You can't, not anymore.
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    You can't, not anymore.
    I'm sorry? I still see Broil miss, so I'm not sure what you are talking about.
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    I'm sorry? I still see Broil miss, so I'm not sure what you are talking about.
    Ever since Lost City of Amdapor (Hard) and Antitower were released, the devs made adjustments so you would not miss anymore in level 60 dungeons. That was especifically made because healers with no ACC melds were missing too much.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    Keisero Starborn
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    I'm sorry? I still see Broil miss, so I'm not sure what you are talking about.
    I haven't seen any misses beyond those from accuracy debuffs
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I really hate getting det as 2nd stats, piety or ss still acceptable for me and crit is a MUST for SCH for more chance of crit adloquium.
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    Amalon Starfire
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I haven't really played as a sch but I am interested in learning more, I know that because of the fairy you can dps more than on a job like whm. I would have to log in and check on what stats do what now as opposed to before but I personally focus more on high determination and spell speed for healers. From the last time I looked at the stat descriptions determination increases your healing potency, for a healer class I feel that having more consistent heals and faster cast times is better than trying to get crit heals and not getting a crit heal when you need to have one.
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    I haven't really played as a sch but I am interested in learning more, I know that because of the fairy you can dps more than on a job like whm. I would have to log in and check on what stats do what now as opposed to before but I personally focus more on high determination and spell speed for healers. From the last time I looked at the stat descriptions determination increases your healing potency, for a healer class I feel that having more consistent heals and faster cast times is better than trying to get crit heals and not getting a crit heal when you need to have one.
    Crit Adloquium is amazing on SCH, hence the idea people want it. It doubles the shield you give, so a Crit 1000 heal gives a 2000 shield. There's no reason to not work as much crit as possible on a SCH.
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Character
    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    I haven't really played as a sch but I am interested in learning more, I know that because of the fairy you can dps more than on a job like whm. I would have to log in and check on what stats do what now as opposed to before but I personally focus more on high determination and spell speed for healers. From the last time I looked at the stat descriptions determination increases your healing potency, for a healer class I feel that having more consistent heals and faster cast times is better than trying to get crit heals and not getting a crit heal when you need to have one.
    Here's some testing on healing stats for WHM and Diurnal AST: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...mulas_and_more

    For healing on these jobs too, it's Crit > SpS > Det
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    Dodogamo Bobogamo
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    so for the likes of Shire Preceptor's Hose, for SCH DPS and healing is it crit > speed > det? so i would meld speed in these?
    For damage: (51% of SCH damage are DoT's)
    Acc > SS > Crit > Det

    For heal only (which is impossible atm):
    Crit > whatever you want to

    Normally i'm over 90% in Cleric Stance. For 1-2 adlos each run crit isn't needed, cause you can never get a 100% crit adlo. It's always just luck.
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    Last edited by Arg0n; 01-27-2017 at 06:11 PM.
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