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    Hierro's Avatar
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    It seems like the exact issue is that he's incorporating BB into his berserk windows/openers. I am totally in favour of spamming storm's eye when both tanks are close in aggro, such as after a swap, but using butcher's block when the case is otherwise is fine (unless with DRK). However, using BB while in berserk should be counted as a no-no because not only does it pose a risk for aggro, but it actually lowers WAR dps.

    I've tried looking for ways to use BB while in berserk, there's no way to juggle having the SE debuff on, applying fracture, using 2-3 fell cleaves, AND BB as well. It doesn't work unless you have a TON of skill speed+fey wind, except your average WAR goes for stacking crit and det. This means you drop the debuff and you lose potency until you can reapply it again, lost dps for you AND your co-tank. The extra 20 pot gained from using BB over SE is not worth the lost 10% on the next GCDs. Your WAR co-tank uses BB because he thinks he's making the best choice for the most damage, but if you can explain what I listed, he'll change his mind. Tell him to just spam SE during zerk and it'll all be fine.
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    Last edited by Hierro; 01-26-2017 at 02:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    However, using BB while in berserk should be counted as a no-no because not only does it pose a risk for aggro, but it actually lowers WAR dps.

    I've tried looking for ways to use BB while in berserk, there's no way to juggle having the SE debuff on, applying fracture, using 2-3 fell cleaves, AND BB as well.
    No, this is absolutely wrong. As long as your last combo before berserk is storm's eye, there is a way to use butcher's block without dropping eye. For example:

    (assume 2+ stacks) Heavy Swing > Maim > Storm's Eye (Potion) > Heavy Swing (Internal Release + Berserk) > Fell Cleave (Infuriate) > Fell Cleave (Vengeance/Raw Intuition) > Skull Sunder > Butcher's Block > Heavy Swing > Maim > Storm's Eye > Fracture > Fell Cleave

    The common mistake made by many warriors is weaving fracture during the 2x cleaves part of the rotation, which means weaving 2x cleaves, 1x fracture, 1x heavy swing, 1x skull sunder, 1x butcher's block between two storm's eye combos, those are 6 gcds, i.e. equivalent to weaving two full combos between two storm's eye combos. Eye debuff will drop unless you have very high skill speed. But if you check the rotation I wrote above, you move fracture until after you reapplied eye debuff, so there's no risk of it dropping. Granted, you'll miss internal release and potion on your fracture, but dropping eye debuff as you said would be a worse dps loss. As long as you only fit 5 gcds between two storm's eye combos, it's safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
    BB stuff
    As true as this is, the difference in DPS is highly minimal due to the Fracture being moved to the end like you mentioned. It's better to just play it safe unless they actually let you pull the boss in which case BB your heart out (til the swap).
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Perhaps I should have been more specific. There's no way to use BB if you're going to place fracture where it'll gain optimal buffs. If fracture is going to miss that much buffs, then it still looks like a DPS loss to use BB in berserk windows for the deceptive 20 pot gain. How is it a mistake to use fracture during the best time?
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