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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJMau View Post
    Am I the only one that thinks that anyone who prefaces their post with "With PS3 support being dropped can we/finally we can get x" has little to no idea what exactly they're talking about? That'd require code for every pattern in every combination of every color of every piece of dyable gear in the game. With 99 different colors to choose for and combine.
    Most likely if they're going that high in color options they wouldn't make code for every pattern, they'd just send over the numbers that make up the color and let the client fix it up. 255, 20, 0 or something. They wouldn't make a variable for every single color at that point, they might not even do that now. Of course more and more options at larger number of players on screen at once can make simple things less simple. Their colors seem to be rather particular though so its probably more than three, like reflection options or whatever. In that case it'd be like sending over a specific variable, hawtchestpiece_22(1053).

    Anyway, what I mean to say is I highly doubt they've made a code for every combination of every color of every armor, but rather just fill in the blank. The amount of work to make an identifier for everything would be like.. omph why lol.

    Although adding full color choice and adding multiple color locations would mean more and more gets sent, like hawtchestpiece_22(255, 20, 0, 200, 34, 200) for every single piece of gear that a player can dye and then for every player.
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    Skadi Felis
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    I think it will be too late for 3.55 if the devs have not worked on it already. Maybe 4.1 or 4.4 if the devs start on it before 4.0.
    And it will be only for new gears
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Lol Don't shoot the messenger guys! I would love it as a feature, I'm just letting you know what the dev team has said on it in the past >>; They never said why it would take a better system, nor did they go into details on what it would take. I just letting you know to not hold your breath cause its already been commented on.
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    I don't think implementing it for new items would take that much work, it's the fact that everyone asking for this would want them to go back and redo all the existing gear to be compatible with it. That is A LOT of work, and anyone calling the devteam lazy have no idea what they're talking about.
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    Zanku Hado
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    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    I don't think implementing it for new items would take that much work, it's the fact that everyone asking for this would want them to go back and redo all the existing gear to be compatible with it. That is A LOT of work, and anyone calling the devteam lazy have no idea what they're talking about.
    Enlighten me on how I don't know what im talking about. I'm simply asking for gear to be tested for multi slot dyeing. Doesn't matter if its 3.55 or 4.0+, regardless someone asked about it during fanfest and if i remember correctly Yoshi P misunderstood the question and immediately dismissed it. I know this takes time, I'm not asking for them to do this all in a patch cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhett_Magnum View Post
    Enlighten me on how I don't know what im talking about. I'm simply asking for gear to be tested for multi slot dyeing. Doesn't matter if its 3.55 or 4.0+, regardless someone asked about it during fanfest and if i remember correctly Yoshi P misunderstood the question and immediately dismissed it. I know this takes time, I'm not asking for them to do this all in a patch cycle.
    It's just that devtime has to be highly prioritized, because there is never enough devtime for all the things they want to do. Like Gabe Newell said in a recent interview, "Anything in a game is a sacrifice of things not in the game". Personally, while I think more detailed gear dye would be really nice, I don't want it if it means they have to sacrifice or significantly delay something else for it, which in all likelihood is the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    It's just that devtime has to be highly prioritized, because there is never enough devtime for all the things they want to do. Like Gabe Newell said in a recent interview, "Anything in a game is a sacrifice of things not in the game". Personally, while I think more detailed gear dye would be really nice, I don't want it if it means they have to sacrifice or significantly delay something else for it, which in all likelihood is the case.
    Oh nooo we cant lose the pointless and not fun scholasticate quests. What would we ever do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zampp View Post
    Oh nooo we cant lose the pointless and not fun scholasticate quests. What would we ever do.
    More like ilevel 15 models for future raid gears, because the devs would not have enough time to create new models.
    And that will create 5 complain threads on day 1
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zampp View Post
    Oh nooo we cant lose the pointless and not fun scholasticate quests. What would we ever do.
    I do hope you realise that the development team is broken into smaller teams focused on specific things. Stuff like dye channels would be handled exclusively by the art team. As such, any extra work invested by them into giving us extra dye channels on gear would mean less new art made for the game elsewhere. The likely casualty would be less new equipment in each patch, or poorer quality.
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    Iluv Op
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    It would be hard to implement since they would have to go back to all dyeable gear and modify them. Tech wise it wouldn't be an issue on PC, but would be on PS4.
    I'm sure you can expect other improvements with stormblood since PS3 isn't supported and it has been dragging the game down tech wise to this point. PC at the very least got its DX11 update which made the game itself look nicer, but having some other upgrades to complexity of environments and the things you can do would be nice. Swimming is one thing that can happen with the PS3 support being dropped. Not something you could have implemented smoothly on that system.
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