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    Paladin Relic

    Hi there,

    I havnt played my Paladin much in a while but I have been getting back into it and looking to get the relic. I was just wondering what stats to put in the pld relic? I would have assumed crit/det but if I recall correctly, there was some sort of change to skill speed and sword oath in 3.4? Was this change big enough to warrant a change in relic stats to like crit/ss or is crit/det still the way to go?

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    SS is cancer on Pld, stick to Crit/Det regardless of the weighting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    SS is cancer on Pld, stick to Crit/Det regardless of the weighting.
    Cancer is an extremely serious disease that claims the lives of millions of people around the world every day, and utterly disrupts the lives of millions more.

    Skillspeed over Crit/Det on all your gear cuts your potential DPS by maybe a few dozen.

    There is a very big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Cancer is an extremely serious disease that claims the lives of millions of people around the world every day, and utterly disrupts the lives of millions more.

    Skillspeed over Crit/Det on all your gear cuts your potential DPS by maybe a few dozen.

    There is a very big difference.
    Thank you for your SJW response!
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    Thanks for the replies!
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    Clarifying from the previous posts, SkS is likely found from other parts and PLD can work with minimal SkS mostly for the Goring ticks; more SkS means you will clip Goring earlier and you lose damage from that. Other than that, PLD has the most issue with TP consumption. Hence the Crit/Det.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    Thank you for your SJW response!
    Nah, but I've lost people to cancer, and know a few more who are fighting through it. So your comparison deserves to be cut down, along with any references to minor annoyances and inefficiencies as cancer. Thanks for trying to deflect your casual disregard for common decency and the struggles of others, though.

    Getting back on point, the secondary stats have so little value in the quantities that you can assign that it doesn't really matter. If you're min/maxing, Crit and Det are your friends, but outside of that? /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Nah, but I've lost people to cancer, and know a few more who are fighting through it. So your comparison deserves to be cut down, along with any references to minor annoyances and inefficiencies as cancer. Thanks for trying to deflect your casual disregard for common decency and the struggles of others, though.
    Or, just maybe you can understand that a simple comment on a forum doesn't equate to a direct attack on you or your feelings. I know it's a hard to comprehend, but the world doesn't revolve around you. I too have lost ppl to cancer. Am I butthurt at his comment? No! Because he wasn't attacking anyone. He didn't even say anything insulting. You took offense to it, and guess what that means? Nothing. Grow up and start acting like an adult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Nah, but I've lost people to cancer, and know a few more who are fighting through it. So your comparison deserves to be cut down, along with any references to minor annoyances and inefficiencies as cancer. Thanks for trying to deflect your casual disregard for common decency and the struggles of others, though.

    Getting back on point, the secondary stats have so little value in the quantities that you can assign that it doesn't really matter. If you're min/maxing, Crit and Det are your friends, but outside of that? /shrug
    I too have lost people to cancer. If you don't understand hyperbole that's your issue, not mine.
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    It's impressive how quickly this thread got derailed.

    At least OP got his answer.
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