The problem with The Feast chat, let's solve the problem from the roots.

[Zyphione]

I disagree unless there is something I'm missing.
The problem isn't about training for ranked.

I'm not the only one who may think that they only did this because of the GARO event. It would be a poorly and horribly received event by the vocal minority if they were being pelted with things that PvPers put up with daily. Furthermore, the developers are going to use this time to look at the PVP community and see how everyone reacts, take notes on everything they see in-game and on the forums, then maybe decide if it should be kept this way.

Hoping they will revert the change any time soon is a forlorn hope, but a hope nonetheless.

"I really can't tolerate this event because every time I want to do it, everyone is yelling at me!"
"This is the worse event ever because the community doesn't understand I'm doing this just for the event!"
"I wish I could win 60 Feast games for the mount and never have to participate in this horror ever again! Such a terrible idea, feeding us to these wolves!"

This is being spun out of proportion for something that can be solved without much effort - simply, people should not be PvPing if they can't handle the inner furies of the everyday chat box. Since that isn't an option for whatever reason, we are where we are now.

The root of the problem has always been that individuals try to do things they know they shouldn't be doing.
No amount of solutions can protect people who are made of glass.

[TiramisuMacaron]

Not if it doesn't give any points.

And still, making 1 or 2 weeks of pre-season will help too.

Lots of players play feast because of the gametype and the faster queues than FL (not anymore, rip). Lots of players don't care about rank, and just want to PvP, you'd still have to attach elo to normal mode or else you'll have 2m steamrolls constantly. It would split the player base, normal would pop faster, people would Zerg ranked the first two weeks and then only play normal.

[ChocoFeru]

Lots of players play feast because of the gametype and the faster queues than FL (not anymore, rip). Lots of players don't care about rank, and just want to PvP, you'd still have to attach elo to normal mode or else you'll have 2m steamrolls constantly. It would split the player base, normal would pop faster, people would Zerg ranked the first two weeks and then only play normal.

Didn't happen with 8v8 unranked, won't happen 4v4 unranked.We NEED a 4v4 testing grounds for new players.

[TiramisuMacaron]

Didn't happen with 8v8 unranked, won't happen 4v4 unranked.We NEED a 4v4 testing grounds for new players.

8v8 was literally dead until they made the role restriction change. Before the garo event, whenever people decided to make 8v8 pop, it would kill feast. It was less of an issue on Aether, but on Primal whenever 8v8 was popping, 4v4 was mostly dead. Oh Chaos, ranked feast was unpopulated like 1 month before Garo. There is not enough of a community on most data centers to support 3 modes. They just need to always have a preseason on .05 patches, so when content is low, new players can jump in and try feast.

[yumeyume]

Can we please have our pvp chat back? It is tough to pvp without chat especially with a lot of new pvp players. A lot of people don't know the rules and how to pvp and this opportunity is supposed to teach them to pvp. But how can we teach people pvp without telling them what is going on and what to do? I am frustrated doing pvp these days seeing a brand new nin took 10 stacks of medal w/o knowing it would kill him in one shot.

They should have the preseason for people to warm up

Or have simple rules of PVP post up so people can understand.

[P4X0R10N]

You need a culture shift, and it really starts with SE.

They need to make a statement and take a hard line, zero tolerance policy on toxicity. They need to develop a system to implement their vision.

Once they feel the system can weed out the deplorables, they really should work on not only reversing the chat restriction, but developing tools to improve communication in pvp.

[TiaHariberux3]

Can we please have our pvp chat back? It is tough to pvp without chat especially with a lot of new pvp players. A lot of people don't know the rules and how to pvp and this opportunity is supposed to teach them to pvp. But how can we teach people pvp without telling them what is going on and what to do? I am frustrated doing pvp these days seeing a brand new nin took 10 stacks of medal w/o knowing it would kill him in one shot.

They should have the preseason for people to warm up

Or have simple rules of PVP post up so people can understand.

They already announced a preseason for after season 3.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

A preseason by itself will do as much to teach people as having no chat will. Sure, players can ask their friends or people they know that PvP more regularly about how it all works, but nothing beats practical training. Of course, diving in, having no idea what's going on, and just losing constantly doesn't help either. So really, the proper fix is to either start offering in-game help/training for teaching Feast basics, or restore the ability to chat and allow players REAL communication.

[Jas710]

Devs are losing. I mean, besides the chat removal controversy, look at the rest of it. The PVP duty finder list is a mess. How are new players supposed to know what to join? Descriptions are horrible.

Then when you get into say, a feast match, there are no HUD info showing what the objectives are. Using a controller for targeting is a lost cause. The on-screen kill banners obstruct your view. You have to find open slots to incorporate the PVP abilities into your rotation. And so on and so forth.

Just remove PVP at this point. Game over.

[ChocoFeru]

PVP is still fun IMO, the thing is that new players will find it hard to enjoy it because there's no way to learn without a proper chat.

I can't really understand how anybody would deffend the actual chat restriction, it runs against PVP itself. If you don't like the bad words from a toxic player, then blacklist him or ignore him, who cares about toxic players anyways?
We need the chat to coordinate, to teach and to learn. We tested it and it didn't work, now it's time to get it back.