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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD View Post
    It's a WWII term to insult the Japanese and the Imperial Army.
    There exists a lot of common use terms that some religion/country/subset of population in their own region will found offensive because they are in their dialet or were in their past history.

    Not everyone that write English in forum is an American that knows how American army people called the Japanese army in their history of WW2.

    Then, as long as history were called, the term were not offensive at all, and later became so because the war between the U.S. and Japan.

    I think the guy that called for "racism" and so on, overreacted and did not taken account this is an international forum.

    And, nailing to the topic, this is also an example of how difficult is making text for international purpose. You will found a number of hilarious (and not) names given by innocent companies to their products, but resulted in high embarassment when exported
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    May I suggest using an abbreviation that isn't highly racist or offensive?
    It's no different to saying, brit or aussie.
    Take it to tumblr.

    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Right, because I like having to watch a scene in a different language and needing subtitles for it.
    Hey, me too! before I learned Japanese, lots of fans of anime did that if they wanted to watch new releases or just wanted to watch the original source material without having to hear the only three dub anime voice actors Yuri Lowenthal, Christna Vee and her "Noel Vermillion voice" or Steven Blum.
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    Last edited by Yasuhiro; 01-26-2017 at 12:23 PM.
    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    It's no different to saying, brit or aussie.
    Take it to tumblr.
    It is very different and just by doing a little research you would see why. I don't think someone calling me the N word is offensive but then I am not black. Use your brain just because you don't find it offensive doesn't mean others don't. BTW before you say they are completely different they are not they are both ethnic slurs. If you want a better example of how it's not OK to shorten names by where they are from try Pakistan.

    As for the topic I would like to see more voice acting but in other areas too i.e Job/class quests and beast tribe quests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    It's no different to saying, brit or aussie.
    British and Australian people did not get put into internment camps on American soil like Japanese Americans did all while being derogatorily referred to by a term they did not use for themselves. Brit and Aussie are terms largely accepted by the people of those nationalities even to the point of being used to describe themselves in mamy, many cases, whereas the term for Japanese people is not.

    If someone is not aware of the history of forced internment of American Japanese people amd uses the term, educating them is the best route. If someone continues to use the term or defends its use once made aware or despite being aware of why it is derogatory then it is more than reasonable to call them out on the bigotry being displayed. Fortunately the situation with the person who used it appears to be the former, and the person just wasn't aware of the negative connotation of the abbreviation he used, it was explained, and he no longer posted using the term. Hopefully the subsequent posters defending the term can take a moment to reflect on why the term should not be used or defended, even if only from the simple position of empathy for others
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    I want more face animation. The hero can scream, cry or be angry, but his face is calm as usual. Really strange to see that in the cut-scenes
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    Voice acting is prohibitively expensive compared to the costs of many other elements of development. This is why it is used very sparingly at present. I would personally much rather they focused on using their budget efficiently by spending it on things that players are likely to make regular use of, as opposed to cutscenes that most will only ever see once.

    Now VA for bosses in dungeons is a different issue and one that I could support, though again I would want the devs to focus on making efficient use of that budget. Some VA is great but too much will mean less of other things that likely hold more importance to most players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Voice acting is prohibitively expensive compared to the costs of many other elements of development.
    I would love to see more voice acting, but this.

    I was just doing the Scholasticate quest and thinking "Man this would have been so much better if voice acted. D:" Same with Hildibrand! I know they're side quests but they are "major" side quests... if that even makes sense.

    But yeah. There are more important things they could use their money for imo. As much as I enjoy the voice acting and want to see more of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Voice acting is prohibitively expensive compared to the costs of many other elements of development. This is why it is used very sparingly at present.
    I don't know about expensive, but FFXIV's voice acting is quite cringe worthy in its badness at times. There are definitely a few bright spots here and there, but most of the voice acting is pretty sub-par unfortunately. I'd rather they not increase the frequency of it if they don't also increase the quality of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Voice acting is prohibitively expensive compared to the costs of many other elements of development.
    It's surprisingly not. In an interview about the last 2 star wars the old Republic expansions, the developers were asked why they decided to switch their focus to mostly narrative. The simple answer was that cutscenes and voice acting have now become the cheapest part of the whole process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnugglesD View Post
    It's surprisingly not. In an interview about the last 2 star wars the old Republic expansions, the developers were asked why they decided to switch their focus to mostly narrative. The simple answer was that cutscenes and voice acting have now become the cheapest part of the whole process.
    That largely depends on what quality of VAs you're hiring and how many different languages you are recording in. In Japan voice actors are very high profile with massive fan followings and contracting them is very very expensive. SE then has to hire an entire cast for every localised region. They have much more to consider than Bioware does.
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