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  1. #11
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    Yoruno's Avatar
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    Rem Minase
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 70
    What about my friends that I used to premade with? I have a friend who is from Finland and one from France. He had a macro made to let us know when he was going to burst to do fast switches. Now he can't use those macros, and he doesn't and she doesn't want to voice chat because they cannot speak english. What about them? I mean solo queue is stupid but limiting it in premade is basically just showing an IQ level equating to what medals a nocturnal AST has left after losing a game in solo queue.

    Grow up, and stop feeding this "I can't be offended culture" if you get butthurt over a game to the point you have "anxiety" to queue, you will never get anywhere in life.
    (5)

  2. #12
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    Leo Trotsky
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoruno View Post
    Looking at your achievements somebody probably got sick of carrying you, told you you were doing something wrong in probably not the nicest way they could've done and instead of taking it on your chin like a man, you cried toxicity and now you're back to do the exact same thing what you're doing before except theres nobody to reprimand you for your actions.
    I assure you I did not denounce The Feast as toxic here on this forum or anywhere else, I merely stopped going there after a while. Regarding my achievements, back then I got about halfway to The Feast's mount, and that was that.

    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    In that vein, wasn't chat kind of a previous form of Social Darwinism as it was? People who couldn't handle being bad at the Feast had their peewins hurt and subsequently GTFO'd out the Feast, leaving only people who were serious and invested in the game mode to compete.
    Your argument is sound - except that things didn't turn out this way. If badmouthing people was all it took to make them get better, we would've lived in a vastly different society. My point is that chat wasn't helpful in most situations, not that someone's feelings might've been hurt in the process. As things stand, there doesn't seem to be a perfect solution - but I do honestly believe this latest development is an improvement. We must urge the developers to improve further instead of bullying them into preserving the current state of affairs - no matter how dismal it might've become.
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    Last edited by Trotsky; 01-22-2017 at 11:53 PM. Reason: grammar strikes back

  3. #13
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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    Eva Gamirdren
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 100
    I'm not much for PvP myself. I play the non-competitive modes a bit when new things are on the vendors but that's about it.
    I can understand SE's thinking with the chat restriction. Back when the Feast was introduced I played the 8v8 mode for a bit hoping to get a Fenrir pup. I saw new healers verbally abused when they didn't do well (go get cancer, uninstall ect) which was pretty shocking to me for an unrated mode and certainly wasn't helping them perform better in battle. I assume the chat restriction along with the GARO event and frontline freelancer being added this patch are all part of a concentrated effort by SE to grow the PVP community by making it more appealing to newcomers.

    My biggest problem with no chat in the Feast is that I don't believe the premade phrases are an appropriate replacement. As many have said there aren't enough phrases to cover every situation. As a controller player I'm also not thrilled by the idea of putting a dozen more buttons on my bar and trying to find them in a hurry (granted typing mid battle isn't easy for me either).

    A more ideal solution would be to leave chat unrestricted but crack down harder on players reported for repeated inappropriate behavior. At the very least I think pre-match chat should be unrestricted to make it easier to discuss strategy and I don't see the need for the premade party competitive modes to have a chat restriction at all.
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    Last edited by Moomba33; 01-23-2017 at 12:41 AM.

  4. #14
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    Geologo's Avatar
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    Leinas Kroma
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 90
    I'm ok with their aim about Reducing toxicity in the Feast but I'm really getting tired of 10 stack paladin, pve raise, "what is purify?" and so on,
    I hope SE will expand this feature leaving far more option to talk during the feast, and NOT by the addition on other 20 istant chat skills.
    (2)

  5. #15
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    O-o O-o
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    Brynhildr
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    The only reason why anyone would find that the Feast is better without chat is for the 50/50 chance of a 20s match because you were lucky enough to get stacked with a few Gold+ ranks and the other team was facerolled.

    You have to raise an eyebrow at the 8v8 matching system when a Diamond, 2 Platinum and a Gold are put on the same side vs all unranked... 0.o
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  6. #16
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Chevronone View Post
    You have to raise an eyebrow at the 8v8 matching system when a Diamond, 2 Platinum and a Gold are put on the same side vs all unranked... 0.o
    8vs8 has no matching system, it's as simple as that. It just takes 16 random people and scrambles them together randomly, ignoring everything but premade status of 2 people.
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  7. #17
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    a mute option would be better yes, like a black list of behavior you don't want read when he is writhing trashtalk
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  8. #18
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    Iluv Op
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 70
    I do understand the perspective of trashtalk being a moodkiller, but you just have to get used to it. That's how online games have ALWAYS been and that is how online games will always be. Should it be that way? No, but it is and it will be.
    Hiding in your own safe space will only make the inevitable encounter with frustrated people even more horrible because you haven't had exposure to it. Sometimes people give advice while frustrated. Sometimes people just vent their anger, but when you see that stuff enough, you filter it in your mind without paying any attention to it. That said, learn not to give a damn. Do NOT reply "toxic" talk, ignore it.
    It can make competitive modes in games intimidating, but you need to remember that it really is just talk. A fist in your face hurts and you have reasons to not get used to that. Words hurt only initially, but you get used to it.
    Exposure is key to coping with all challenges of life.
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  9. #19
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    Teikedepeike's Avatar
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    Character
    Sushi Roll
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 26
    A competitive mode where you can't communicate properly? Please that's the most stupid thing. For example some tanks are new to feast and don't know what to do I can't explain them that they need to take medals but not too much, or even worse healers who take damage buffs. I've come across all these things since the new patch and I can't explain them. So the people will keep playing like this and it becomes one big disaster. (8v8 at the moment)
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  10. #20
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    Araxes's Avatar
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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    I like the Feast without Chat. People are actually focusing on fighting instead of just typing and yelling how bad everyone seems to be. Especially those who ran into the enemy base alone and passed the blame to the healer for not instantly "teleporting" to him and pop all CD's to overheal said "player".

    And before everyone might say: "Oh this guy clearly never played Feast before", just look at my glamour. Thanks.

    Have a nice evening.

    (Oh how i look forward to all the complains about my 2 cents)
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    Last edited by Araxes; 01-23-2017 at 03:54 AM.
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