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    Raquelle Rosalia
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    Why the difference in duration?



    Why??

    Quote Originally Posted by Edewen View Post
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    Play better. If you are having mp issues it is your fault. Stop fishing for a way to blame the other guy. This is not politics.
    I just want to know WHY. Simple question. Stop fishing for a way to pick a fight. Gitgud in understanding.
    And no, I don't have mana issues unless people are dropping like flies to things they shouldn't.
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    Last edited by RaquelleAvarosa; 01-23-2017 at 10:25 AM.

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    Makoto Edakumi
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    My guess would be that CNJ/WHM gets a flat 50% reduction while AST is a reduced generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaethusXion View Post
    My guess would be that CNJ/WHM gets a flat 50% reduction while AST is a reduced generation.
    I think Raquelle is wondering about the refresh duration, not about the enmity part.

    Raquelle, I have only unlocked astrologian and never played that job at all, but could it be that astrologian has a higher MP consumption compared to Whitemage? If so it would explain the longer Refresh time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam_Hawkins View Post
    I think Raquelle is wondering about the refresh duration, not about the enmity part.

    Raquelle, I have only unlocked astrologian and never played that job at all, but could it be that astrologian has a higher MP consumption compared to Whitemage? If so it would explain the longer Refresh time.
    I play both jobs a lot. IMO, WHM consumes more MP than AST.
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    Doesn't WHM also get a boost in refresh potency in a trait?
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    The best logical explanation I've seen is that AST gets near faceroll mp management [longer, extendable refresh, Ewers, and lower base spell costs] is because cards are what they manage. Mp management is very limiting on white mage to create an artificial skill ceiling.
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    SE just threw everything but the kitchen sink at AST to try to push it into viability. It's...really not a very well designed job, so they only way to make it relevant was to overtune it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Doesn't WHM also get a boost in refresh potency in a trait?
    Shroud of Saints base potency is 60, trait boosts it to 80.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Doesn't WHM also get a boost in refresh potency in a trait?
    80 is with the trait. Without, it would be 60.
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    They adjusted the potency of the healing spells up for AST (they are quite similar right now if you look at equivalent spells) but didn't touch the mp cost. Probably same reason here. Made sense before because the spells were lower potency but the mp cost is still from the old balancing. They just never changed it so AST spells are cheaper to cast than WHM equivalents.

    Who knows why. Probably to get people to play AST. Same with the Balance card buff.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 01-22-2017 at 11:52 PM.

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