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    The potions would be a problem if Squeenix hadn't learned from its mistakes with dark knight, astrologian, and machinist. Clearly they have by only requiring you to defeat ultima weapon to unlock red mage and the second class they're releasing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    The potions would be a problem if Squeenix hadn't learned from its mistakes with dark knight, astrologian, and machinist.
    And those mistakes would be .. what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pintsized View Post
    And those mistakes would be .. what?
    People tend to hate how Astrologian is basically a copy of either WHM/SCH depending on which stance they choose. Square Enix also decided to release them hilariously underpowered, making them have a horrible reputation for about a full year.

    At the very least, they could have released Astrologian with competitive numbers instead of "lol have two thirds of a whm or a third of a scholar".

    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    Or maybe people could just get over it and not be outraged over the idea of having to unlock things in a video game.
    Literally every post I've read from you is "get over it". Nothing to contribute, hmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    Square Enix also decided to release them hilariously underpowered,
    To be fair, it's usually better to release classes undertuned instead of overtuned. Balance is not an easy initial hit to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    To be fair, it's usually better to release classes undertuned instead of overtuned. Balance is not an easy initial hit to make.
    They went above and beyond in making sure Astro was pathetic compared to the other healers. It's one thing to make them somewhat undertuned, it's another to basically say "We don't ever want you using this job in serious situations".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    They went above and beyond in making sure Astro was pathetic compared to the other healers. It's one thing to make them somewhat undertuned, it's another to basically say "We don't ever want you using this job in serious situations".
    You can cut it out with the victim complex, now. AST was undertuned, but even Gordias clears still happened. Even at the job's lowest point in power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pintsized View Post
    And those mistakes would be .. what?
    Locking them behind HW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    The potions would be a problem if Squeenix hadn't learned from its mistakes with dark knight, astrologian, and machinist. Clearly they have by only requiring you to defeat ultima weapon to unlock red mage and the second class they're releasing.
    If what I read is correct from the posts about yesterday's stream, you don't even need to beat Ultima Weapon just A.) Get ONE War or Magic job to 50 and B.) Be able to access the required area...which will be a 2.0 area and thus might be one of the original city-states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    If what I read is correct from the posts about yesterday's stream, you don't even need to beat Ultima Weapon just A.) Get ONE War or Magic job to 50 and B.) Be able to access the required area...which will be a 2.0 area and thus might be one of the original city-states.
    Even better news!
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