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    Battle System for Bloodstorm

    Hey Guys,
    I'm not playing so much anymore, which is partly because of my friends mostly leaving the game and partly because of the way the patches are made (extremly easy Dungeons for example).

    Now I'm wondering If I will play this game for much longer and of course the question "should I buy the add-on?" is popping up fo me.
    On one hand I would say no because my interest in FF14 is rather low right now.
    But on the other Hand I still have one or two friends playing and with an Add-on the hope of some people coming back is there.

    As I've heard not so long ago they plan to revamp the Battle system and I somewhat set my hopes in that, even though I do not expect this to make the game wholey different.

    So my Question would be: Is there anything know about this already?

    Thanks for Reading and taking your Time,
    Tam

    TLR; I was wondering if anything about the revamped Battlesystem for 4.0 was already known? Thanks^^
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    Nothing known about it besides the fact that some jobs (or all, they are not sure yet) will get a unique UI, and that 'generic' skills (like 20% damage reduction from Rampart and Shadowskin or 20% damage up from Raging Strikes) will be reworked into a new generic skillset for each role, removing the need for the crossclass system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Nothing known about it besides the fact that some jobs (or all, they are not sure yet) will get a unique UI, and that 'generic' skills (like 20% damage reduction from Rampart and Shadowskin or 20% damage up from Raging Strikes) will be reworked into a new generic skillset for each role, removing the need for the crossclass system.
    Wait shadowskin will become available to the other tanks? That's very interesting to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Wait shadowskin will become available to the other tanks? That's very interesting to me.
    It's not that Shadowskin will become avaiable to the other tanks, but a generic skill, possible with another name and with the same effect of 20% damage reduction will (and new skills will be added in place of Rampart and Shadowskin for PLD/DRK). I will try to find the interview and post what Yoshida himself said about this.

    EDIT:

    Found it!!

    Famitsu: What about tanks?

    Yoshida: The current three tank jobs will share the same abilities. By introducing defense abilities such as physical damage resistance 20% up into role shared abilities, in their stead, we can create new unique abilities for jobs. You might think it will become easier, but the matter of fact is that it won’t. We will remove useless parts in order to strengthen party cooperation and skill rotation. By making the system simpler, we can go much deeper with the battle system. But, we don’t plan to widen the gap among players because of player skill, so I think that the gap will be somewhat filled between casuals and hardcore players. However, you will see a gap open between intermediate and advance players.

    From here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    It's not that Shadowskin will become avaiable to the other tanks, but a generic skill, possible with another name and with the same effect of 20% damage reduction will (and new skills will be added in place of Rampart and Shadowskin for PLD/DRK). I will try to find the interview and post what Yoshida himself said about this.
    Ah thanks for the clarification~! If you find it that'd be great too, but no rush . PLD has a few skills i'd like to see become more interesting.. Flash is one of the most boring abilities in the game lol. Hope the general tank skill pool can take flash from Paladin XD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
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    Found it!!
    Thank you mate
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    Thank you Fevelle,
    It seems that nothing new was released yet, I just hope they will explain everything before launching the add-on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam_Hawkins View Post
    Thank you Fevelle,
    It seems that nothing new was released yet, I just hope they will explain everything before launching the add-on.
    Yoshida said to expect big juicy news about the expansion in the Frankfurt Fanfest so I guess we have no other choice but wait.
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    Did they say anything about something like provoke or even blood for blood being split among classes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Yoshida said to expect big juicy news about the expansion in the Frankfurt Fanfest so I guess we have no other choice but wait.
    One more month then, good good^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Newmanxeno View Post
    Did they say anything about something like provoke or even blood for blood being split among classes?
    I'm 99,99999% sure that provoke will be one of the split skills it would not make any sense otherwise.
    I'm not so sure about blood for blood as that has no equivallent for other dd classes nor is it absolutly necessary, but I would imagine that they just throw every overlaping skill as well as all or at lost most of the cross class skills into this pool.
    -> Just my assumptions thought, as far as I know they only gave the infos Fevelle linked to.
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    Just so you know, he specifically said 20% physical damage resistance up.

    Which is Foresight. Also it's the only current cross class mitigation cooldown.

    So if anything is being replaced, it's Foresight
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