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    dragonseth07's Avatar
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    Ratithgar Jovasch
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    Cooldown pairings

    Hello! What cooldowns do you often pair together (on any of the tanks)? I'm familiar with Awareness+Bulwark/Raw Intuition/Dark Dance. What other pairings are common?
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    King Canadane
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    Other than Raw Int. + Awareness, none. It's not often advised to stack multiple defensive cooldowns.
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    Mirchea Luslec
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    Odin
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    {Blood Price} + random non active skill
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    Brown Sugar
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    Adamantoise
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    Monk Lv 62
    As WAR I always use Berserk and Bloodbath together since they have the same cooldown time.

    Same thing with PLD Fight or Flight and bloodbath. Bloodbath is great, I hope Dark Knight has something to pair with it.
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    Ulyssi Ironside
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    Living dead with Convalescence I suppose. Even then, its only if you happen to have Con available at the time of LD. You should be using Con throughout the fight. Raw Int + Awareness is the big one. Don't do Dark Dance and Blood Price. Although its not really the same, try and used weaker defensive cooldowns when you can Inner Beast a big hit - bigger cooldowns when you cant. Canadane is pretty spot on though, stacking def cooldowns is generally avoided as a rule.
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Berserk/fight or flight and bloodbath go well together. But yeah it's generally not good to pair CDs as it reduces their effectiveness, since they're multiplicative, not additive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    Living dead with Convalescence I suppose. Even then, its only if you happen to have Con available at the time of LD. You should be using Con throughout the fight. Raw Int + Awareness is the big one. Don't do Dark Dance and Blood Price. Although its not really the same, try and used weaker defensive cooldowns when you can Inner Beast a big hit - bigger cooldowns when you cant. Canadane is pretty spot on though, stacking def cooldowns is generally avoided as a rule.
    I think you mean walking dead, using convalesce while living dead is active is kinda counter productive.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 01-13-2017 at 04:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
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    Yes I am aware how it functions. Living Dead is the name of the cooldown, which is what the OP asked. If you use LD and dont get the Walking Dead status than you used it wrong to begin with.
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Other than those, there are a couple to avoid (DO NOT DO THESE):
    • Blood Price + Dark Arts + Dark Dance - Dark Arts is highlighted in red, because when you use it with Dark Dance, you get a boost to your dodge chance. Dodged attacks make Blood Price less valuable.
    • Blood Price + Dark Arts + Dark Passenger - Similar to above, this one afflicts enemies with Blind, which effectively increases your dodge chance, and works against Blood Price.
    • Hallowed Ground + any other defensive cooldown - Hallowed Ground is godmode. Why would you waste something else on top of it?

    Otherwise, I have a few pairings I do. Fight or Flight pairs nicely with Bloodbath, Dark Dance goes well with Foresight, and a few others I can't remember off the top of my head for WAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Other than those, there are a couple to avoid (DO NOT DO THESE):
    • Blood Price + Dark Arts + Dark Dance - Dark Arts is highlighted in red, because when you use it with Dark Dance, you get a boost to your dodge chance. Dodged attacks make Blood Price less valuable.
    • Blood Price + Dark Arts + Dark Passenger - Similar to above, this one afflicts enemies with Blind, which effectively increases your dodge chance, and works against Blood Price.

    Otherwise, I have a few pairings I do. Fight or Flight pairs nicely with Bloodbath, Dark Dance goes well with Foresight, and a few others I can't remember off the top of my head for WAR.
    its better to use Dark Dark Dark passenger when there 2+ adds since its a higher potency then Dark SE and with the blind effect it really not that much so blood price is still good on it. Also Dark dance is pretty much good with anything since it increase the rate of parry and sometimes it better to just leave it by it self if you know your not going to have foresight shadowskin and scale up
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    While mting as Drk once you have enough eminity and your healers can heal you while without Grit you can combo Blood weapon and bloodbath it some below the hps of Fof Bloodbath or Berserk bloodbath but its Hp gain
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