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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    The funniest thing about this is its a total contradiction to everything else in the game..
    And what's even more funny is that there are quite the easy fixes for all of this. For example, loot should be scaled every patch so that old gear isn't totally wasted (think of Legion's dungeons) and in general the rewards should be scaled to high level so that even at 60-70 doing old quests is beneficial (SWTOR does this greatly as you can go to your old planets and do heroic quests, and get rewards scaled to your level). Also loot should have some sort of tier sets which makes them better regardless if BiS or not (and the saddest part is, we had that on levelling gear from the GC). There should be special effects, there should be timed runs (Again look at Legion and mythic+), there should be so much more and yet we get nothing.

    And on top of that, for the sake of accessibility, they really should start thinking of making the story optional or else, as I said, only the hardcore fans will try it. YES, this is a Final Fantasy game, I know story is important (PFFF...sorry I almost had a burst of laugh there), however there will be one point where new players will be completely discouraged to even play the game, as they will have to suffer through the story for even unlocking the basic endgame (because enjoying the GAME is such a shameful thing!). I always make the reference to SWTOR here because it makes story optional (for the most part) and it's a story-heavy game (and IMHO, a much better story in general).

    But if people prefer to have a game "bonafide Final Fantasy" rather than having more subscribers, then I guess I have nothing more to say.

    Except "I hope it doesn't backfire"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    And what's even more funny is that there are quite the easy fixes for all of this. For example, loot should be scaled every patch so that old gear isn't totally wasted (think of Legion's dungeons) and in general the rewards should be scaled to high level so that even at 60-70 doing old quests is beneficial (SWTOR does this greatly as you can go to your old planets and do heroic quests, and get rewards scaled to your level). Also loot should have some sort of tier sets which makes them better regardless if BiS or not (and the saddest part is, we had that on levelling gear from the GC). There should be special effects, there should be timed runs (Again look at Legion and mythic+), there should be so much more and yet we get nothing.
    Please no. Yes, SWTOR did this, and in doing so removed every single piece of gear that statically dropped from old content. (note: I stopped playing around/before this change took place so my information could have inaccuracies) So essentially they removed the loot table from every piece of content in the game. Instead you'd get gear boxes with generic leveling gear for your level. Goodbye all the nice gear you liked from dungeon X, or that dropped as random loot from enemy Y. I think they ended up going back and throwing some of it into a vendor to placate the people complaining.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    And on top of that, for the sake of accessibility, they really should start thinking of making the story optional or else, as I said, only the hardcore fans will try it. YES, this is a Final Fantasy game, I know story is important (PFFF...sorry I almost had a burst of laugh there), however there will be one point where new players will be completely discouraged to even play the game, as they will have to suffer through the story for even unlocking the basic endgame (because enjoying the GAME is such a shameful thing!). I always make the reference to SWTOR here because it makes story optional (for the most part) and it's a story-heavy game (and IMHO, a much better story in general).

    But if people prefer to have a game "bonafide Final Fantasy" rather than having more subscribers, then I guess I have nothing more to say.

    Except "I hope it doesn't backfire"
    I do support decoupling story from unlocking everything in the game. Let a person grind up and start running raids (for example) before doing the main story if they so choose. Then they can go back and do the story if and when they want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodingSquirrel View Post
    Please no. Yes, SWTOR did this, and in doing so removed every single piece of gear that statically dropped from old content. (note: I stopped playing around/before this change took place so my information could have inaccuracies) So essentially they removed the loot table from every piece of content in the game. Instead you'd get gear boxes with generic leveling gear for your level. Goodbye all the nice gear you liked from dungeon X, or that dropped as random loot from enemy Y. I think they ended up going back and throwing some of it into a vendor to placate the people complaining..
    Fair enough, but I still want to be rewarded for running all content rather than the endgame: everything that is not 260-270 is dead and useless, only good for those who are catching up and even said catching up is badly done (I'm struggling to gear up as dps because tome gear is 230, but dungeon loot is 245 and since alex is dead I can't even take the 250 ones! Sure my tank is high level but what about my dps? Am I to forget them?). I don't demand the same exact method that SWTOR did BUT I'd love a way to make every content viable no matter the item level we currently are and as of now. And while we're at it, they should rebalance synch by allowing everyone to use all of their skills: there's no skill in pushing 2 buttons instead of 3.

    Sure SE does this "thanks" to WT but it's such a poor, POOR implementation that barely makes a difference and - worst of all - it's completely RNG. The Mentor system doesn't work for sure (heck speaking of help, for people like me who are stuck on nidhogg nobody even cares. Way to promote mentoring!) and since old dungeons have absolutely no reason to be done twice (no special achievements, no mount drops, no rare glamour, NOTHING) nobody ever does a run again unless it's roulette. The only piece of content that will remain valid throughout the years is EX primals: the mounts are a good incentive even years after they're dead and THAT'S how it should be.

    But we all know nothing will change so we can only hope that "something" might happen....but I'll unsub until that moment happens if you don't mind!
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 01-25-2017 at 09:38 PM.