DEVS: May we PLEASE have an answer regarding the Feast and the Quick Chat feature?

[KusoWat]

I played The Feast in the past and received non-stop harassment and it was a really unenjoyable experience.

While I don't think anyone is deserving of harassment, I need to echo what has already been said...

Scott, you spearheaded the cause for getting once exclusive pvp rewards removed from their pedestal of prestige. This alone made people dislike you.

Then, you decided you would queue up and try anyway, which I commend you for. This lead to you getting flamed since not only were you unskilled, but everyone knew WHY you were there. Also, I've heard the horror stories of people trying to give you advice, like the classic "I don't use pvp abilities [as whm] because there is no room on my bar."

Again, while nobody is deserving of harassment, it also just didn't come out of nowhere, and the general population of the community is not toxic degenerates like you suggest.

[Kyle_Ragnador]

i really dont like the new system you cannot even tell the new people how to play feast.



and why there are the games with no healers or tank. pls implement a minimal 1 tank healer matchup

[Erim-Nelhah]

I've heard tales of people getting reported for Harassment in PvP when all they were doing was playing poorly. The way they implemented this without so much as a "Here's why we think this is needed:" makes me wonder how widespread that practice was.

--Erim Nelhah

[Mandudez]

Minion thread was reply'd to and fixed 7 days after it got announced. People didn't get the minions yet, people didn't see the minions yet. Outrage before a feature comes out has been enough in the past and should be enough.

Ah but there is a key difference here. If they didn't cave in to minion collectors they stood to lose a lot of $ from mog station purchases, collectors editions, soundtracks, etc. that all had a minion attached to them. With the pvp change people might quit feast but still play the game and pay their subscriptions. Very few people would/will quit over that change.

[Februs]

Ah but there is a key difference here. If they didn't cave in to minion collectors they stood to lose a lot of $ from mog station purchases, collectors editions, soundtracks, etc. that all had a minion attached to them. With the pvp change people might quit feast but still play the game and pay their subscriptions. Very few people would/will quit over that change.

That's a good point, but not necessarily 100% accurate. We already know of a few veteran PvP'ers who have unsubbed over this, and quite frankly it doesn't seem like a bad option if you like PvP.

There's not a lot of content to keep us occupied between now and Stormblood, especially if you're not a fan of crafting, gathering, or any of the other monotonous aspects of the game, and you can only farm the same few dungeons/raids for so long. PvP would normally be a nice filler to pass the time, but not anymore. I renewed my sub for 3.5, but once I'm finished with it I don't think I'll be willing to give SE any more of my money. I just don't see a point in paying them for a couple of months of dead content and wasted potential. If they don't care about their own game or the people who play it, then why should we keep feeding them at our own expense?

[Sherufanir]

I know a lot of people say they flame the healers but it doesn't happen as often as people exaggerate. I have played over 900 games, most of them as healer because that's where I do best. When it does happen, yes, a negative experience will hit you hard and it can be demoralizing but the actually very few rude players should be punished, not everyone.

Most of my games have had positive experiences win or lose. People wishing me luck on the next one, trying to help others keep track of the million things to keep track of. It is easy to not notice that someone overfed on stacks and makes an easy target, or someone got marked but you missed it. People used chat to keep others on track, coordinate skills and limit breaks to gain medals, keep others informed of lb status, medals when they needed to be picked up, etc. As a healer I've gained tons of useful tips about positioning, how to handle burst, what to watch out for and when to use a skill to avoid my own demise so I can keep helping my team stay alive as they helped me.

When I tried to branch out from healing players would help me in and out of game to get better, the dueling system really brought that to life as I could exercise that a bit more precisely. They would tell me where I could do better and I have, and I could go from doing awful a game to doing well enough to turn it around with a bit of help from my teammates cause I wanted to win just as they did. I may not be the best player in the feast, nor am I even top 100, but I spend a lot of time in there, and the players in there have been helping me climb and do better each season.

All of that is gone, everything that made it fun or exciting is just bland. There's so many bloat buttons in this new chat system that I don't even say hello anymore. Even then the buttons don't cover even 5% of all the communications we'd need to cover so many different situations, because unlike PvE, Feast was fun because it was always different. You can't plan for things enough to make these buttons the only form of communication. It's just a mess. 4v4's are a disaster and 8v8s are just random with no team coordination, no way to help or introduce new players to the feast. I've even given up healing because I can no longer communicate with my team to ask for help when an enemy player manages to flank and I am sitting in attune hoping they notice. There's just not enough there to cover every single situation, and to do that would be to add upwards of 100 more buttons to my hotbar. Please, implement this as a chat ban, a soft ban for players who continue to be toxic if the problem really is that bad, but for those of us trying to help each other get better and have fun, the chat allowed us to do so. It really helped make the community amazing to be a part of, now it's like a silent ghost town, as if everyone were an NPC.

[KusoWat]

Ah but there is a key difference here. If they didn't cave in to minion collectors they stood to lose a lot of $ from mog station purchases, collectors editions, soundtracks, etc. that all had a minion attached to them. With the pvp change people might quit feast but still play the game and pay their subscriptions. Very few people would/will quit over that change.

This is a reason given with faulty evidence. Why would THIS minion be the straw that breaks the camels back, when there are several others which were exclusive and now unobtainable?

[Mandudez]

This is a reason given with faulty evidence. Why would THIS minion be the straw that breaks the camels back, when there are several others which were exclusive and now unobtainable?

You do know that minion collectors are crazy right? Any serious one would NEVER miss one. They grab them the instant that they can. They don't take a break and hope they didn't miss one. That's where you are mistaken. Even if every single person who won the minion from feast was a minion collector there still would be tons of people with an incomplete collection at that point.

[Sherufanir]

You do know that minion collectors are crazy right? Any serious one would NEVER miss one. They grab them the instant that they can. They don't take a break and hope they didn't miss one. That's where you are mistaken. Even if every single person who won the minion from feast was a minion collector there still would be tons of people with an incomplete collection at that point.

I've met plenty without the cait sith doll, and many of them are okay with that.

[Moonlite]

I did the 30 feast wins for mount and really enjoyed the change. Some games you steam rolled, some you got steam rolled, or occasionally you got the same healer you know would drop like a rock. While it would be nice to tell people to focus that dps he will eat the whole team alive. So less pouting. Less change or else at the beginning as well. If you can't change to healer you shouldn't ask someone else to do it.

It isn't that bad. I have seen one player spam nice job, and we actually came back within a couple points of winning that match. It is about admitting you can't control people to play the way you want and try to adjust. While i would like the tank to lock down the one healer while i try to burst the squishier one if he doesn't I just have to play with him.

While pvp community has been unhappy with this, I am sure all the first time coming to dinner people have enjoyed it. But I am of the opinion that rank should only be premade parties and not solo that is team based. They are conflicting systems.

Also you shouldn't feel so ignored has the way they respond to housing issues and system not shown you anything. Those threads also get moved to housing to die as well sometimes.