Is this a hack or BRD OP issue?

[Exira]

That is, saddly, a fact of PvP. Classes are balanced around being able to do PvE, less so PvP. This has lead to a number of classes, not just Bard, being able to kill someone without that person having a chance to breath. Warriors (why hello Holmgang, how are you today?) and Ninjas in particular do this as well, and I\\'ve seen well played Monks wreck DPS and Healers in a hot second. It\\'s frustrating, yes, but PvP is still a work in progress for SE.

The main problem is.. People who have no idea how pvp works talks about it , let me explain : bard Barrage can be stunned , the target can go far away gg barrage interrupted , ninja is the worst melee class in pvp! Also explain me whats wrong with holmgang.. And last the Op who uses stone to heavy the Ranged instead of heals.. Than we complain why ppl get rekt in a match

[LillithCale]

The main problem is.. People who have no idea how pvp works talks about it , let me explain : bard Barrage can be stunned , the target can go far away gg barrage interrupted , ninja is the worst melee class in pvp! Also explain me whats wrong with holmgang.. And last the Op who uses stone to heavy the Ranged instead of heals.. Than we complain why ppl get rekt in a match

I'm not saying there is anything WRONG with Holmgang, I'm saying that there are classes that have skills that are very powerful in comparison to PvP vs PvE. I'm not complaing about getting rekted because, let's face it, I'm a bard. I am going to 'get rekted' as soon as someone gets physical with me and I'm silly enough to be on my own. I specifically mentioned holmgang because 1.) it's just a strong skill in general, 2.) it's my own, personal, running joke. I get caught in Warrior's holmgang's A LOT and that's my OWN fault. But it still doesn't stop me from doing a 'hello darkness my old friend' type of joke as that chain catches me and drags me.

[Gumbercules]

try some padding with vit acc too, unlike pve in pvp you are pretty much just doing w/e you can to buy "seconds" to be able to run, heal, los etc. As a bard if a person isn't very reactive i can borderline global them with my cds popped. Hell wait till a nin gets in a nice starter on you on anything besides a tank and you drop even faster XD

though the vit acc rule now is "enough to survive lb" I think so its not full vit acc anymore someone feel free to correct me :P

[Eggscellent]

>>>BRD uses Empyreal Arrow.
-You take 792 damage.
- You take 1761 damage.
-You take 1756 damage.
>>>>BRD uses Farshot.
-Critical! You take 2760 damage.
>>>BRD uses Bloodletter.
-You take 1075 damage.
>>>BRD uses Blunt Arrow.
--- You take 760 damage.
>>>>unknown
----You take 1443 damage.
> defeated

I use swiftcast stone to heavy this person and I was dead before I was able do anything (ability wise because of silence) what gives?

Well..... for a start.... why would you swiftcast stone? and why would heavy stop a ranged dps from attacking you? he is ranged......

yes bard is powerful and yes you need to know how he bursts to be able to counter heal, you have lots of pvp skills that can help with that too, purify is the single most powerful skill in pvp, sacred prism lasts a while and gives you a lot of physical damage protection.

BUT DO NOT SWIFTCAST STONE.......... JUST DONT DO IT........ PLEASE.........

[Erandel]

Bard burst is easy to spot and is really predictable. If you see a bard popping all his buffs, he has you targeted and you have both Venomous Bite and Windbite on you you should either prepare to bene/tetra once the damage hits or even swiftcast a Cure 2.
You are saying you had the time to swiftcast a stone on him, so that means even though tetra was on cooldown you could have possibly survived by swiftcasting a Cure 2 instead. Attunement is also an option.

[Ama_Hamada]

Well..... for a start.... why would you swiftcast stone? and why would heavy stop a ranged dps from attacking you? he is ranged......

yes bard is powerful and yes you need to know how he bursts to be able to counter heal, you have lots of pvp skills that can help with that too, purify is the single most powerful skill in pvp, sacred prism lasts a while and gives you a lot of physical damage protection.

BUT DO NOT SWIFTCAST STONE.......... JUST DONT DO IT........ PLEASE.........

Person was running away so I did that so others could kill them, when you do frontline, all you can do is heal and be annoying to others, a bit boring at times.

Basically it was a 1 on 1 with trying allow others to catch them, so if I cant do damage at all as a healer, why do I die so easily? After the stone landed they tuned around and killed me without me being able to do anything.

Also Holmgang is a free kill, when that is used on me I am unable to move or cast anything? it confuses me, I just sit there unable do nothing till I die

Bard burst is easy to spot and is really predictable. If you see a bard popping all his buffs, he has you targeted and you have both Venomous Bite and Windbite on you you should either prepare to bene/tetra once the damage hits or even swiftcast a Cure 2.
You are saying you had the time to swiftcast a stone on him, so that means even though tetra was on cooldown you could have possibly survived by swiftcasting a Cure 2 instead. Attunement is also an option.

What I said was all was used,, there was no buffs, the person turned around after i hit them with stone and I was dead before my GC was ready.

None of the skills that hit you are on global cooldown. Empyreal arrow, Farshot, Bloodletter, Blunt arrow, Sidewinder, and Misery's End has their own respective cooldown. Out of those listed, Empyreal Arrow is the only one with a cast time. The rest of the others come quickly and successively right after, and again are not on global cooldown.

Can you explain what you are talking about? Your reply does not fit what I said.

[Pence]

Also Holmgang is a free kill, when that is used on me I am unable to move or cast anything? it confuses me, I just sit there unable do nothing till I die

I'm not saying this to be nasty or anything....but ^ coupled with the fact you swiftcast stone...you sound like you have no idea how to PVP. Which is completely fine. It can be difficult transitioning into PVP: Skills that have little PVE use are often kings here. Was you close to him? You could have used Fluid Aura to interupt him for a second to get off a cure. You -should- have Swiftcast > Repose > healed yourself and waited for your team.

I'm not WHM but I'm pretty sure BRD is far from OP.

[Isala]

I'm not WHM but I'm pretty sure BRD is far from OP.

I'm both. And BRD is honestly a one-trick pony. It has its burst window, and that is all that it has. There are God knows how many things you can do as a WHM to negate the BRD burst. Virus, Stoneskin, Sacred Prism, Attunement, Tetra, Bene. Swiftcast>Repose> Repose. Or just bloody KITE. If you can keep a BRD from planting their feet for 15 seconds, they cannot kill you. Period. So no, it's not a hack, nor is it a BRDs being OP issue. It's an L2P issue. You'll get better. Just stop using "OMG, BRD2OP" as a crutch.

[Jeido]

I'm a bit confused, you're stating that you couldn't do anything at all, yet you used Swiftcast on Stone ? I'm not sure what was the idea behind it, a Bard running slow will still be able to hit you, lol. You could and should have Swiftcast Cure II or whatever is your strongest potency healing (I never played WHM so can't really tell but hopefully you get my point). Bard isn't "OP" like you claim it is, I'm far from being what a lot would call "good" at PvP so I guess it's just my two cents, but it's not extremely hard to figure out either.

[MisterAdri]

I use swiftcast stone to heavy this person

There's the problem