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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    It could have been fishing ya, but I don't see how something we did since 2.0 is now killing the game. It's true they can't just flip the switch and put new hardware into play, and I don't really know how a transfer between world's would work, since the same amount of traffic would still be there just dispersed out. Before this patch only Bal and Gig only had issues with them being full, now the whole center is dying?
    So the datacenter is a cluster of servers connected together. Each cluster has the world servers, instance servers, lobby server and all attached to them. Now, what can happen, when you have multiple servers at capacity, is they will bog the cluster down, and can result in a crash. If the traffic from a set of servers exceeds the clusters limitations, then boom.

    This is all generalization, I have no idea how SE has the servers set up, but its a good example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    So the datacenter is a cluster of servers connected together. Each cluster has the world servers, instance servers, lobby server and all attached to them. Now, what can happen, when you have multiple servers at capacity, is they will bog the cluster down, and can result in a crash. If the traffic from a set of servers exceeds the clusters limitations, then boom.

    This is all generalization, I have no idea how SE has the servers set up, but its a good example.
    But let's say you take half of Bal and add it to my server Jenova, and half of Gig and put it into Siren, wouldn't that still cause the same issues? IF the issue pertains to overpopulation, how do you determine who gets moved off? It's not like people would be willing to abandon friends, fc, houses, and gil, simply because of being overpopulated. Even if you lock the server, the issue with all the data present on those two are still going to cause a crash, so how would SE determine who gets the boot to another world?

    Granted there are very small world's like Gob and Mat on our center, that would benefit a migration, the issue is still present. How do you encourage people to go smaller? So really in my eyes, outside of just doing a massive hardware update which could be very costly and highly lengthy, anything done right now would just be pushing issues under the rug and hoping they go away.
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    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 01-20-2017 at 03:11 PM.

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    You don't move them. You try to convince them to move with a free xfer and maybe some xp bonus for a week or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    This has nothing to do with white knighting, a simple explanation of how the issue could occur. The reaching is strong with this one. Enjoy getting mad at everything o/
    You are pontificating, you are offering nothing of real substance other than what MIGHT be the case in defense of SE. Enjoy defending a company you don't even work for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeraga View Post
    You are pontificating, you are offering nothing of real substance other than what MIGHT be the case in defense of SE. Enjoy defending a company you don't even work for.
    That wasnt a defense. It was an explanation of how a server cluster could possibly get overwhelmed due to traffic overload. Now you are just showing how irrational you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That wasnt a defense. It was an explanation of how a server cluster could possibly get overwhelmed due to traffic overload. Now you are just showing how irrational you are.
    No, it was a load of ignorance from a random with no actual understanding of anything in actuality in an attempt to tell me I should not complain. I think you should reevaluate the irrational position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeraga View Post
    No, it was a load of ignorance from a random with no actual understanding of anything in actuality in an attempt to tell me I should not complain. I think you should reevaluate the irrational position.
    Ignorance huh? How bout you try to explain to someone with no technical knowledge the workings of a datacenter then? I wasn't saying thats how it worked, I was saying its how it could possibly work. You took offense to that for some reason, and that is why you are irrational. In fact, that post had absolutely NOTHING to do with you. You werent even part of that particular discussion.

    And i maxed out on posts, so I'm done here.

    I'm sure this will get a response saying im still ignorant and a white knight or w/e.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Ignorance huh? How bout you try to explain to someone with no technical knowledge the workings of a datacenter then? I wasn't saying thats how it worked, I was saying its how it could possibly work. You took offense to that for some reason, and that is why you are irrational. In fact, that post had absolutely NOTHING to do with you. You werent even part of that particular discussion.
    If you do not work for SE and have no actual knowledge of their actual server/technical situation, than you are simply uselessly pontificating.
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