An open petition / discussion about Animation Lock and FFXIV

[Buddhsie]

Someone find the video from SWTOR of the cutscene where that ship lands, it shows it stop in mid air for half a second before the camera changes to a different angle where it's moving again. Looks funny as hell! (And people take that game srsly!)

[Dreadnought]

Someone find the video from SWTOR of the cutscene where that ship lands, it shows it stop in mid air for half a second before the camera changes to a different angle where it's moving again. Looks funny as hell! (And people take that game srsly!)

like i said my opinion is the infallible one.

and yeah the animations arent the best. they do beat WoWs and Rifts animations though.
the questing is the same as every other MMO only with speaking cut scenes. everything else is just a standard MMO. by far not the worst out there.

you say the abilities look god awful? every single mage ability in this game is utter crap. thats why they are re doing them.... because the devs themselves agree that the abilities in this game look like crap. thats why they redid some of the melee ones not too long ago lol.

you dont like using abilities and being able to move around? thats why your stuck in the 90s with your whitenight old school RPG desires. the modern age wants action incorporated into their gameplay.

this game is very niche, and it will stay that way since so many other games coming out are pure action.
GW2, you cant argue crap about that game. the abilities look stunning and are top notch for an MMO-they surpass SWTOR by far. same with blade and soul.
oh but wait you wont be playing those because you want FF3 MMO style.
oh and plus the environments look amazing AND dont have zone lines.
"well FFXIV has the highest graphics of them all!" who gives a damn? even if the graphics are light years away the battle system is not.
you dont want an action MMO. thats the bottom line. well the rest of the world does and many many people were hoping for a lot of action elements in this game as well as a slew of other things which non came into fruition up until a few months ago. and yet were still not getting an action based battle system.

there are so many things modern MMOs offer that FFXIV does not and most likely will not.
how about the ability que? did you know you can customize how long your ability que is in SWTOR?
did you know you can turn off or on auto attack in blade and soul?

those games also have yet to proven fail or win, FFXIV has already proven fail for over a year now. if you dont like the standard MMO it doesnt give you the right to bash it based on your own opinions.
Yoshi P himself said there are certain things you dont change in video games and he used FPS games as his example. they are all the friggen same yet millions of people play each different one.

[Buddhsie]

like i said my opinion is the infallible one.

and yeah the animations arent the best. they do beat WoWs and Rifts animations though.
the questing is the same as every other MMO only with speaking cut scenes. everything else is just a standard MMO. by far not the worst out there.

you say the abilities look god awful? every single mage ability in this game is utter crap. thats why they are re doing them.... because the devs themselves agree that the abilities in this game look like crap. thats why they redid some of the melee ones not too long ago lol.

you dont like using abilities and being able to move around? thats why your stuck in the 90s with your whitenight old school RPG desires. the modern age wants action incorporated into their gameplay.

this game is very niche, and it will stay that way since so many other games coming out are pure action.
GW2, you cant argue crap about that game. the abilities look stunning and are top notch for an MMO-they surpass SWTOR by far. same with blade and soul.
oh but wait you wont be playing those because you want FF3 MMO style.
oh and plus the environments look amazing AND dont have zone lines.
"well FFXIV has the highest graphics of them all!" who gives a damn? even if the graphics are light years away the battle system is not.
you dont want an action MMO. thats the bottom line. well the rest of the world does and many many people were hoping for a lot of action elements in this game as well as a slew of other things which non came into fruition up until a few months ago. and yet were still not getting an action based battle system.

there are so many things modern MMOs offer that FFXIV does not and most likely will not.
how about the ability que? did you know you can customize how long your ability que is in SWTOR?
did you know you can turn off or on auto attack in blade and soul?

those games also have yet to proven fail or win, FFXIV has already proven fail for over a year now. if you dont like the standard MMO it doesnt give you the right to bash it based on your own opinions.
Yoshi P himself said there are certain things you dont change in video games and he used FPS games as his example. they are all the friggen same yet millions of people play each different one.

QQ? I'm sorry SWTOR isn't living up to expectations, no need to spew garbage about FFXIV.

How can you claim that there is more action in those games than FFXIV?

[Vanguard319]

Animation lock is fine. I'd rather that than have abilities and run all over the place. A good example is how archers attack. An archer needs to take aim, realistically, if hes moving and jumping everywhere, hes gonna be really inaccurate. But that's just aesthetics. Its part of strategy... Here is an example: at lvl 15 as a PUG I'm fighting moles around drybone. Moles have that wonderful dig attack that if you notice their attack patterns, will see they use this move towards the end of their lifespan. You should be expecting that it will activate the technique, and anticipate when is not a good time to pop a skill so you are not locked to your location when the mole digs. I've only fought mini ifrit so i have no boss mode comparison, but i think animation lock should stay.

I agree, people were whining about how weaponskills weren't impressive or unique enough, now they're whining even more about the animation lock caused by these flashy weaponskills THEY demanded.

Seriously people, flashy moves and lock, or no lock and boring moves. Pick your poison and live with it.

[Sanlord]

Full Support OP, They can't make any kind of content that rely on avoid animation lock. that's it.

[RathSkybreaker]

QQ? I'm sorry SWTOR isn't living up to expectations, no need to spew garbage about FFXIV.

How can you claim that there is more action in those games than FFXIV?

IDK if I should take that last bit seriously or not, so i'll take it as a joke. -sheldon laugh-

[Dreamer]

I think animation lock should stay for most skills. It makes no sense for me to be able to run around like a madwoman when I'm performing a 360 degree slash attack. For magic, musketeers, and abilities, sure. Definitely not for most weapon skills such as lancers, archers, gladiators, etc., however.

[Vanguard319]

I just want to know if the people here really are expecting to be able to cast spells and shoot bows without any sort of animation lock.

If you ask me, most of the animation lock in FFXIV makes sense. Yes, a person should stand still to shoot an arrow and cast a spell. Those kinds of things should require focus, which really isn't gonna happen when running around.

Or, are you guys arguing that there should be no animation lock in the sense that we should be able to move at all times, but doing so would cancel things like spell casts and shooting bows?

If its the latter, then I am fine with such an idea. If you guys want to be able to do anything without having to think about smart positioning and timing your actions, then I'd have to say you're just lazy and want a brainless way to win.

It nice to see someone on this forum who agrees with me on why it makes sense for an archer to be not moving while shooting.

[Rentahamster]

It nice to see someone on this forum who agrees with me on why it makes sense for an archer to be not moving while shooting.

It might be more realistic but from a gameplay perspective, it's terrible.

See: Resident Evil 5 vs. Gears of War

[Rowyne]

/signed

Please remove animation lock!

I just want to know if the people here really are expecting to be able to cast spells and shoot bows without any sort of animation lock.

Yes. It's pretty simple, actually. Happens in other games all the time.

If the spell has a 5 second cast time, after the 5 seconds is over and the casting bar is gone, you have successfully cast your spell and should be able to move immediately.

In fact, you should be able to move any time before that 5 seconds is up, that just means you cancel your current spellcasting.

There is nothing worse than being a healer, and watching someone in your party suddenly dying and being helpless to do anything until you're done doing the spell dance. It should be my decision whether or not I want to continue casting a spell with a long cast timer, or cancel and save someone. Or cancel and run away from an attack. That shouldn't be the game's decision.